ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[Toast]

Deffo no jarg tickets though.

 

[magicjuan]

Paper tickets, qr codes, what could go wrong?

Surely there must be better ways to sell tickets for massive competitions like this to prevent fraud and touts

There was, they didn't want them.

 

[WilliamPerry]

This is hilarious though. Wish.com Dua Lipa ?

Hahahahaha

 

[Rita_Poon]

Some tit-head on channel 5 news just bleating on about how it was the worst experience of his life and that the fake tickets issue is all lies. Some front them.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Some block of fakes that lol

@BlueToff

my blue tinted specs arent letting me see the pic, whats goin on dear?

 

[Toast]

 

[davek]

The whole world of football knows this is just what Kopites do.

Turning up with 40,000 fake tickets and willing to create the conditions to cause another disaster.

Organised crime + Liverpool fans culture = megadeath.


This lot stood between the Kopites and another catastrophe on Saturday night. Thank them for it.

 

[Yarrgh]

For me the issue will come down to the truth regarding the fake tickets, but also the sheer numbers of fans who allegedly turned up to the stadium without a ticket.

Fake tickets on ‘industrial scale’ caused Paris chaos, says French minister

France’s interior minister has said he regrets the ‘disorganised welcome’ Liverpool fans received at the Champions League final but blamed counterfeit ticket sales on an ‘industrial scale’ for chaotic scenes

www.theguardian.com

“We deplore a lack of organisation in the way the English fans were received,” Gérald Darmanin told a press conference on Monday. But he said 30,000 to 40,000 Liverpool fans had turned up for the game either without tickets or with counterfeits

If you plan around a set number of people turning up and you assume they’re all in possession of legitimate tickets then you plan your stewarding, security and policing all around that. If the truth really is that 40,000 extra people rocked up to the stadium, a decent number with tickets (and you don’t know if they’re fake or real), then the staff are going to have massive problems and won’t be able to control the situation. That’s when the police can step in and get a bit heavy handed. Add in some rowdy locals and you have a situation ripe for trouble. Obviously they will have been expecting some people trying to get in with fake tickets and others trying to just bunk in but if it really was thousands of people then it’s no surprise the situation got out of hand.

Big issue seems to be once UEFA give the final to a city they seem to just let them get on with it. Implementing a photo ID ticketing system, even better a digital one with unique QR codes that change would go a long way to helping but it seems they can’t be bothered doing it. Paper tickets in 2022 is laughable and asking for trouble.

And there’s no getting away from it- Liverpool fans have history for this behaviour, and a much bigger history than most other clubs in that regard. Really, knowing it was them in the final much more money should have been spent on the stewarding and security. It’s a shame people can’t behave themselves but that’s just how it is. You prepare for reality not for what you hope will happen. UEFA and the Parisian officials must have known they will have needed more manpower based on who was in the final but they didn’t seem to compensate for this. Should they have to? No of course not. But as usual special dispensation FC need things to be done differently.

Ultimately this needs implementing. The rs might be amongst the worst for it, but knowing there's a well encrypted ticketing system would prevent the nonsense that happened on Saturday. Add into that a suitable deterrent for anyone trying to force or blag their way in.

Of course we could all just behave like the Real Madrid fans.

 

[Eggs]

Deffo no jarg tickets though.

View attachment 168249

….and the Echo says ’absolutely no evidence of fake tickets being used’.

 

[davek]

Look to yourselves Kopites.

40,000 fake tickets for your end - bought by you lot from dodgy sources - and you KNEW what tragedy could come from that.

Pointing the finger at others who got you out of another disaster in the making. You hard faced scum.

 

[longers]

The whole world of football knows this is just what Kopites do.

Turning up with 40,000 fake tickets and willing to create the conditions to cause another disaster.

Organised crime + Liverpool fans culture = megadeath.


This lot stood between the Kopites and another catastrophe on Saturday night. Thank them for it.

Im all for dumping on Liverpool fans but it wasn't 40,000 fake tickets. It was 40,000 without tickets. Officials currently have it at about 3000 getting in with fake tickets

 

[davek]

Im all for dumping on Liverpool fans but it wasn't 40,000 fake tickets. It was 40,000 without tickets. Officials currently have it at about 3000 getting in with fake tickets

That's not what I'm hearing...and even it were 3,000 fake tickets that would have caused major capacity pressure in that end.

 

[marmor]

Love the shout at the end ‘you walked in the way lad’. In other words - ‘wasn’t my fault’

Definitely not the fault of the guy kicking the ball in a crowded fan park.

I fkin despise them. And the Scouse ones seem to be the worst entitled of the lot.

 

[WilliamPerry]

That's not what I'm hearing...and even it were 3,000 fake tickets that would have caused major capacity pressure in that end.

2600 that the French can confirm , there was probably triple that in reality

 

[longers]

That's not what I'm hearing...and even it were 3,000 fake tickets that would have caused major capacity pressure in that end.

I agree 3000 is still too much hence why there is no point twisting the 40,000 figure.

60,000ish in total turned up, 40,000 without tickets, 3000ish actually got in according to the french.