ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[LinekersLegs]

None of this matters. No trouble at the Madrid end or any of the other events said deputy would of managed in the past

Disagree, if this report is accurate and two of the three most senior managers were not available in the lead up that is very poor management.

That is especially true if you think that Liverpool fans are more problematic than other fans.

I’ve also seen reports of Madrid fans having problems, particularly as they were leaving.



Seems to me there is plenty of blame to go around tbh

 

[Rita_Poon]

maybe that third chaps phone was one of them bakelite dially up ones from the 1920's and it took ages to cycle all the numbers?

 

[Toast]

Here is the Liverpool head steward in action.
Nothing gets past this fella.

 

[daza_1973]

Some block of fakes that lol

To fair that's nothing but clever forward planning - from all fan accounts and every rs fan you talk to (who was there) must of been at least 3 million rs fans in the stadium in Istanbul.

 

[joe1878]

The neighbours have taken their RS down, them getting beat was great, but the best thing about all this is I can bash one out without Klopp, VVD & “Hendo” peeping at me from all angles.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Paper tickets, qr codes, what could go wrong?

Surely there must be better ways to sell tickets for massive competitions like this to prevent fraud and touts

 

[Rita_Poon]

Here is the Liverpool head steward in action.
Nothing gets past this fella.

doesnt want a case of the kevin spaceys.

*allegedly.

 

[daza_1973]

Here is the Liverpool head steward in action.
Nothing gets past this fella.

Obviously not trained by purple aki that fella.

 

[Tin-Tin]

This is hilarious though. Wish.com Dua Lipa ?

 

[Infernus]

Paper tickets, qr codes, what could go wrong?

Surely there must be better ways to sell tickets for massive competitions like this to prevent fraud and touts

The QR code one is very interesting. I recently attended an event which had a QR code for my ticket. The difference here being that the QR code changed every 60seconds to prevent fraud. Not sure why the same situation didn’t seemingly happen here.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Some block of fakes that lol

@blue_toff

my blue tinted specs arent letting me see the pic, whats goin on dear?

 

[davek]

40,000 fake tickets....bought by people the majority of whom KNEW the source they got it from was dodgy beyond belief...and they knew that entry into the ground if they could get it would place huge pressure on the capacity in their own end.

These creatures were prepared to cause another stadium disaster. That's the real 'organisational' story here: organised crime + Liverpool fans combining to create the conditions for mass death.

Those French coppers and stadium staff deserve a massive thanks from Liverpool City Council and Merseyside Police and the few thousand decent Liverpool supporters who bought their tickets legitimately for preventing a disaster, but the useless gets want apologies instead.

 

[Deckard2049]

For me the issue will come down to the truth regarding the fake tickets, but also the sheer numbers of fans who allegedly turned up to the stadium without a ticket.

Fake tickets on ‘industrial scale’ caused Paris chaos, says French minister

France’s interior minister has said he regrets the ‘disorganised welcome’ Liverpool fans received at the Champions League final but blamed counterfeit ticket sales on an ‘industrial scale’ for chaotic scenes

www.theguardian.com

“We deplore a lack of organisation in the way the English fans were received,” Gérald Darmanin told a press conference on Monday. But he said 30,000 to 40,000 Liverpool fans had turned up for the game either without tickets or with counterfeits

If you plan around a set number of people turning up and you assume they’re all in possession of legitimate tickets then you plan your stewarding, security and policing all around that. If the truth really is that 40,000 extra people rocked up to the stadium, a decent number with tickets (and you don’t know if they’re fake or real), then the staff are going to have massive problems and won’t be able to control the situation. That’s when the police can step in and get a bit heavy handed. Add in some rowdy locals and you have a situation ripe for trouble. Obviously they will have been expecting some people trying to get in with fake tickets and others trying to just bunk in but if it really was thousands of people then it’s no surprise the situation got out of hand.

Big issue seems to be once UEFA give the final to a city they seem to just let them get on with it. Implementing a photo ID ticketing system, even better a digital one with unique QR codes that change would go a long way to helping but it seems they can’t be bothered doing it. Paper tickets in 2022 is laughable and asking for trouble.

And there’s no getting away from it- Liverpool fans have history for this behaviour, and a much bigger history than most other clubs in that regard. Really, knowing it was them in the final much more money should have been spent on the stewarding and security. It’s a shame people can’t behave themselves but that’s just how it is. You prepare for reality not for what you hope will happen. UEFA and the Parisian officials must have known they will have needed more manpower based on who was in the final but they didn’t seem to compensate for this. Should they have to? No of course not. But as usual special dispensation FC need things to be done differently.

 

[WilliamPerry]

@Yarrgh is currently 38 pages behind . Come on lad you’ve got this

 

[Yarrgh]

He’s still at the rocket

The Rocket in downtown Kowloon.