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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


arch stanton said:
Being a bit defensive there aren't you sugartits? Read back what I wrote, I never said covid tests could detect peds.
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aha, there we have the cryptic assumption! I’m not being defensive, just pulling someone up for chatting wham.
You never said COVID tests, you said ………..

arch stanton said:
I'm sure it is entirely coincidental that their dip in form was around the time that lots of people were being subjected to lots of tests.

So was drug testing increased on the back of COVID? What are these ‘lots of tests’ ‘lots of people‘ were subjected too around that time? Was drug testing frequency increased around that time? You seem to know.
 
Collyman said:
aha, there we have the cryptic assumption! I’m not being defensive, just pulling someone up for chatting wham.
You never said COVID tests, you said ………..

arch stanton said:
I'm sure it is entirely coincidental that their dip in form was around the time that lots of people were being subjected to lots of tests.

So was drug testing increased on the back of COVID? What are these ‘lots of tests’ ‘lots of people‘ were subjected too around that time? Was drug testing frequency increased around that time? You seem to know.
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Mass testing of footballers started, and no one would know/risk if other stuff might show up, is the narrative.

Whether the RS were taking sommet, and stopped, due to being unsure of twice weekly Covid tests showing it, havnt a clue. But their performance on the field at the time was remarkably poor, by their recent standards.

And now, is back to smash and awe.
 
ToffeeDan said:
Yep granted they are good, we can see that- but still no one ever gets their share of good fortune. You only have to look at the Rankings in the 2 CL seasons they reached the final/won. They fluked their way from Pot 3 as 22nd best team on Rankings) into a group with lowest ranked opponents from each of the other Pots (Sevilla, Some farmers from Slovenia) and scraped out of the group stage and got an easy ride to the final in the first season before Ramos and Bale sorted them out. Then they miracled their way into Pot 2 thanks to about 5 underdog wins by other teams in the qualifiers and followed it up with a load of teams falling apart (I'll give them the Barca 4-0 comeback).. Spurs!! Yeah right, lads, It's Spurs, and, if they needed it, a gift of a penalty in the 2nd minute that only they would be awarded thanks to a fluke armball that "hit the hand". Not only was it scarcely a penalty but how many of those get given in the opening moments?

And, just for good measure, who could forget Gerrard's Tom Daley impression that helped them scrape into the next stage, the dubious peno in the comeback in 2005, The Ghost Goal v Chelsea. The Rule Changes for 2006.

So when one little "slip" comes along it's barely compensation for all their good luck and kind refereeing calls.
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They only won in 2019 because Napoli missed about 10 sitters in Belgrade, they wouldn't of even made it through the group stage if Insigne wasn't messing about. The Champions League to me is a joke, because the teams who win aren't actually the best in Europe, they just get the easiest group. Whereas in the old European cup, you didn't rely on other teams failures to suceed, Spurs only got to the final because Inter made a horlicks out of the PSV game. To lose 3 of your group games and win the competition doesn't tell you much about the quality of it.
 
JelavicBrate2 said:
They only won in 2019 because Napoli missed about 10 sitters in Belgrade, they wouldn't of even made it through the group stage if Insigne wasn't messing about. The Champions League to me is a joke, because the teams who win aren't actually the best in Europe, they just get the easiest group. Whereas in the old European cup, you didn't rely on other teams failures to suceed, Spurs only got to the final because Inter made a horlicks out of the PSV game. To lose 3 of your group games and win the competition doesn't tell you much about the quality of it.
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And Spurs nicked a late equaliser against Barcelona's youth team to go through as Barca had already qualified.

Plus the VAR nonsense at their second leg against City, who were clearly the best team in Europe that season.
 

Ghost Rider said:
I get you are downplaying the danger of the game but if our defence is that bad currently that we can't shut out 4 goals in 15 minutes, or 3 goals in 15 minutes against villa then there is a track record this season. Plus the giant hole in the middle of the pitch , aging full back Vs mane, no striker etc.

We are in a bad way right now without a light at the end of the tunnel. If you put lewen and doucoure back in that side I'd believe we could beat them. Without them we can't even beat Watford.
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I dont think its about either downplaying or about a game being a danger.

The derby will be a tough game. Their 11 on Sunday cost circa 400m. Our on Saturday cost just over 100m. Their wage bill is hundreds of millions higher than ours. It will always be a tough game. That they havent won at Goodison in years shows how poorly theyve played in away derbies really.

That's all a slight aside though. If you measure football on the basis of team A beats team B who beats team C so you can just add the goals together to get a scoreline, is not a very effective way of judging football to be fair mate. Football matches are one off games. It would be like me saying Liverpool beat Manchester United, and we beat Liverpool, so we are bound to hammer Manchester United. It just doesnt work like that.
 

3pm kick off Saturday, and what's that I hear an Arriva all out bus strike, stagecoach facing major staff shortages as are mersytravel re- the trains. Oh yeah throw in an acute shortage of taxi drivers right throughout the City on top of that!

Thousands of mutant mouth breeders trapped in the city center in their liverpoo' clobber fighting over the remaining cabs, it'll be like some zombie apocalypse film... "Dawn of the 'Teds'", "Night of the Full Kit Winker", "'Not'-Resident (in this country) Evil"
 
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Dan Tanner said:
3pm kick off Saturday, and what's that I hear an Arriva all out bus strike, stagecoach facing major staff shortages as are mersytravel re- the trains....

Thousands of mutant mouth breeders trapped in the city center in their liverpoo' clobber fighting over cabs, it'll be like some zombie apocalypse film, "Dawn of the 'Teds'", "Night of the Full Kit Winker", "'Not'-Resident (in this country) Evil"
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Hahaha, ?
 
Dan Tanner said:
3pm kick off Saturday, and what's that I hear an Arriva all out bus strike, stagecoach facing major staff shortages as are mersytravel re- the trains. Oh yeah throw in an acute shortage of taxi drivers right throughout the City on top of that!

Thousands of mutant mouth breeders trapped in the city center in their liverpoo' clobber fighting over the remaining cabs, it'll be like some zombie apocalypse film... "Dawn of the 'Teds'", "Night of the Full Kit Winker", "'Not'-Resident (in this country) Evil"
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They could walk if they knew the way and weren’t too scared to ask a scouser for directions.
 

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