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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

He's not getting sacked anytime soon.

Just won their first league title in 30 years and won a champions League, the fans still love him and would kick off if he got sacked regardless if he gets in the champions League or not.

He won’t want to be pushed out with the fans hating him. He’ll go at the end of the season citing exhaustion and will leave the car crash of.a squad for the next bloke. No way an ego maniac like him is going to take the heat for their decline. He’ll want all the fans being misty eyed for him, how it all got too much for him, how the injuries were terrible and FSG didn’t back him. He’s not going to stick around so that it’s blatant to everyone that he’s messed up and the squad is unbalanced and he has no plan B.
 

Disagree.

It's not just a case of them 'not getting in the Champions League.' is it? They currently look like a team who can't win enough matches to even stay in the top half of the table.

If they keep losing, it becomes inevitable. He will go. Even the Newcastle (for example) manager comes under massive pressure for a run of form like this.

I dont think they sack him, he may well walk away, but wont be sacked.

Rightly or wrongly (Wrongly IMHO) there are enough mitigating circumstances to keep him post this season & you can make a case for why they might bounce back.
 
I dont think they sack him, he may well walk away, but wont be sacked.

Rightly or wrongly (Wrongly IMHO) there are enough mitigating circumstances to keep him post this season & you can make a case for why they might bounce back.

I'm not so sure.

I mean, it's only my opinion, but I suspect he's lost the players.

If they improve slightly, then I agree, but if this form continues,..

You could be right though, he might well walk first
 
If they get through this round in the champions league then it seems like he'll play a 2nd team in the league for 2 league fixtures before the next champions league matches.

I have a feeling that they may really plummet down the table.

Next 6 games...

Wolves
Arsenal
Villa
Leeds
Newcastle
United

...you'd stuggle to see more than 7pts based off current form.
 

Can't see him there next season
Maybe, don't think it'll be him getting sacked though if he goes he'll walk
Disagree.

It's not just a case of them 'not getting in the Champions League.' is it? They currently look like a team who can't win enough matches to even stay in the top half of the table.

If they keep losing, it becomes inevitable. He will go. Even the Newcastle (for example) manager comes under massive pressure for a run of form like this.
The Newcastle manager didn't win the first league title in 30 years and a champions League mate and is adored by the fans, all my RS mates even though are questioning some of his decisions recently still absolutely love the bloke and are adamant he's the right man. If it's the same this time next season then ye he'll likely be sacked by certainly not yet.
He won’t want to be pushed out with the fans hating him. He’ll go at the end of the season citing exhaustion and will leave the car crash of.a squad for the next bloke. No way an ego maniac like him is going to take the heat for their decline. He’ll want all the fans being misty eyed for him, how it all got too much for him, how the injuries were terrible and FSG didn’t back him. He’s not going to stick around so that it’s blatant to everyone that he’s messed up and the squad is unbalanced and he has no plan B.
Nar I agree with most of this like, if klopp goes he'll walk rather than pushed ( maybe as you say because he knows it's coming )

No matter what happens this season he won't be sacked, as above though if this continues into next season questions will be asked by the board and the fans as they won't have the injuries to hide behind
 
Ladies and gentlemen, Stanley Colly-Bollocks:


Such has been Liverpool’s struggles in attack that Stan Collymore, via the Daily Mirror, claims Klopp is keen to move on all of Salah, Mane and Firmino.

He says there are “whispers” at the club that the trio could be sold if big-money offers come in. Furthermore, he says they already have a four-man list to replace them.

He said: “LFC front 3 have won the lot and may fancy Madrid, Bayern or Juve for a new challenge.

“So don’t discount an overhaul being at least being whispered at LFC.

“Haaland, Grealish, Fati (Barca completely skint) Boadu (couple of Dutch coaches I know love this kid) all on a list.”



Deep inhale ... and....


lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lollollollollollollol
 
Ladies and gentlemen, Stanley Colly-Bollocks:


Such has been Liverpool’s struggles in attack that Stan Collymore, via the Daily Mirror, claims Klopp is keen to move on all of Salah, Mane and Firmino.

He says there are “whispers” at the club that the trio could be sold if big-money offers come in. Furthermore, he says they already have a four-man list to replace them.

He said: “LFC front 3 have won the lot and may fancy Madrid, Bayern or Juve for a new challenge.

“So don’t discount an overhaul being at least being whispered at LFC.

“Haaland, Grealish, Fati (Barca completely skint) Boadu (couple of Dutch coaches I know love this kid) all on a list.”



Deep inhale ... and....


lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lollollollollollollol

He’s forgotten Mbappe in the front four FFS how can he claim that’s realistic without him in it.
 
Ladies and gentlemen, Stanley Colly-Bollocks:


Such has been Liverpool’s struggles in attack that Stan Collymore, via the Daily Mirror, claims Klopp is keen to move on all of Salah, Mane and Firmino.

He says there are “whispers” at the club that the trio could be sold if big-money offers come in. Furthermore, he says they already have a four-man list to replace them.

He said: “LFC front 3 have won the lot and may fancy Madrid, Bayern or Juve for a new challenge.

“So don’t discount an overhaul being at least being whispered at LFC.

“Haaland, Grealish, Fati (Barca completely skint) Boadu (couple of Dutch coaches I know love this kid) all on a list.”



Deep inhale ... and....


lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lollollollollollollol
I stopped reading that at 'Stan Collymore'... :)
 
Ladies and gentlemen, Stanley Colly-Bollocks:


Such has been Liverpool’s struggles in attack that Stan Collymore, via the Daily Mirror, claims Klopp is keen to move on all of Salah, Mane and Firmino.

He says there are “whispers” at the club that the trio could be sold if big-money offers come in. Furthermore, he says they already have a four-man list to replace them.

He said: “LFC front 3 have won the lot and may fancy Madrid, Bayern or Juve for a new challenge.

“So don’t discount an overhaul being at least being whispered at LFC.

“Haaland, Grealish, Fati (Barca completely skint) Boadu (couple of Dutch coaches I know love this kid) all on a list.”



Deep inhale ... and....


lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lollollollollollollol
I miss the days of Ricky Lambert
 

When's klopp going I said
Won't happen said the normally sensible...for a rs brother in law.
He thinks it's just a matter of..
Re group, get everyone fit, see out the season, get rid of the deadwood, bring in new players to upgrade the bench.


...then go again - yep he used those words - go again
Not a lot when you say it quick
 
I dont think they sack him, he may well walk away, but wont be sacked.

Rightly or wrongly (Wrongly IMHO) there are enough mitigating circumstances to keep him post this season & you can make a case for why they might bounce back.

I'm not sure I entirely see it this way.

In the abstract I tend to agree. He has enormous stock amongst fans, though to be honest quite a few of them are turning on him now, and others are openly questioning him. 2 months and 12 games more with a lot of defeats would be bruising for him. I mean if he can consolidate at over 1 point per game, he might be able to limp on from the fans perspective, but anything less than that and I reckon there will be open revolt.

The problem for him, in honesty really comes next season. I think a lot of forgiveness from fans is that everything just goes back to normal and they win the league next season. As I think I put to Dave earlier, I can see a world where he improves from this form (I can't imagine a world where they are a point a game unless FSG panic and issue a firesale) but I am also not sure they get to 2 points per game. I don't think it will be good enough for a log of fans.

We are beyond the point now where we discuss is this a crash, or whether there will be a longer term impact, but it's really a case of how long the impact goes on for and how severe the current dip will go. You also have to throw in, I really don't think there will be much money for any sort of a rebuild come the summer. If there wasn't money in January, relying on CL money etc, there won't be with no CL and potentially no European money full stop.

The other cavaet in this, is it's ultimately not the fans who decide. I think the owners will look at his myriad of outbursts and digs, his insitence on two new CB's that he hasn't played, the crying for Koulibaly which was never realistic, the crying for Thiago who he has broke the bank for with wages and has badly flopped, and you start to say a collapse from 1st at Christmas to say 8th at the end of the season is just not acceptable.

They are almost certainly going to be looking at their biggest gap to the leader since the Hodgson days. It may even be the biggest gap in PL history (and in honesty since we all started watching football, as they were never far off from the 70's onwards). It took them 7-8 years post Hodgson or general big forward momentum and big spending (relatively so) to get to that point. I honestly think they are at that point, where they are 6 or 7 years off challenging again, and that assumes they start making the sort of ruthless calls FSG made back in 2012. I'm not sure any of them have come to terms with this reality at all.

In honesty, he's very lucky this collapse happened not a year earlier otherwise he would probably be gone now. Reminds me of Houllier 03, who they limped on with, with seething resentment from the fans, and in the end only messed up another season in the process.
 

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