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ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3


Diogenes the Cynic said:
People haven't got perspective because they cant understand it yet. Unless you've served in the military or work in some sort of healthcare setting then death feels far away.

Nobody will be talking about football in a month's time, the only conversation will be of food, blankets, medicine and the chances of survival.

I'm very glib because it is my sense of humour and it makes me feel better but if you want my opinion the death count will be horrendous and life will be changed from here forward.
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Think that’s a bit hysterical to be honest mate.
 
Khalekan said:
Someone on RAWK has suggested using the Duckworth-Lewis method to decide the PL placings lol
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If I remember rightly, that method relies on winnings, draws and losses being normally distributed across the season; and this season has been anything but normal. So that’s that out of the window then.

Nice try.
 

Diogenes the Cynic said:
People haven't got perspective because they cant understand it yet. Unless you've served in the military or work in some sort of healthcare setting then death feels far away.

Nobody will be talking about football in a month's time, the only conversation will be of food, blankets, medicine and the chances of survival.

I'm very glib because it is my sense of humour and it makes me feel better but if you want my opinion the death count will be horrendous and life will be changed from here forward.
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Two very good points.

The glib part is a very poignant one as I myself have a very dry and dark-humour, which ultimately has been born from my professions and a necessity to cope.

I'll be honest, I could have quite easily replied to @Big_Duncs_Fod that "Well, hopefully it's a RS relative". Do I mean it? Am I underestimating the situation?

Of course not; in fact, I fully appreciate the seriousness of the situation, but a bit of joviality is a way of managing mine and other peoples' reaction to the crisis.

With regards to the understanding of the situation, many people probably haven't experienced death, injury and pain on a frequent basis, nor are they trained for it.

Will countries who've got conscription or a larger percentage of service or policing personal cope better because they've been conditioned to deal with situations?

You know there's no need to panic buy every piece of toilet paper, kitchen cloth and pasta you can see when you've lived off rations and excreted in a plastic bag.
 
PhilM said:
Two very good points.

The glib part is a very poignant one as I myself have a very dry and dark-humour, which ultimately has been born from my professions and a necessity to cope.

I'll be honest, I could have quite easily replied to @Big_Duncs_Fod that "Well, hopefully it's a RS relative". Do I mean it? Am I underestimating the situation?

Of course not; in fact, I fully appreciate the seriousness of the situation, but a bit of joviality is a way of managing mine and other peoples' reaction to the crisis.

With regards to the understanding of the situation, many people probably haven't experienced death, injury and pain on a frequent basis, nor are they trained for it.

Will countries who've got conscription or a larger percentage of service or policing personal cope better because they've been conditioned to deal with situations?
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I doubt it because there is a big difference between service and active service in a environment where you experience casualties, loss and death first hand swiftly and repeatedly.
And it's different again because it's not a battlefield, completely different to people dying of disease. Doctors and nurses will be used to death and am sure will compartmentalise and use humour etc to get through but if we are being completely realistic the only people with any real experience of something like this would be the likes of Médecins Sans Frontières and people who worked with ebola (obviously not similar) etc.

There's going to be some horrible times ahead but people will find a way.

This is why i joke, im bloody miserable now.
 
davek said:
Kopites defending Shankly's 'more important than life' quote and saying it was taken out of context "he merely meant to show how in the 50s and 60s when things were colourless and adventure-less for most working people it was their escape".

No he didn 't. He was a crank. He may have been a good footy manager, but only a crank could have come out with that statement - and only a swivel eyed Jonestown cult could have quoted it for years.
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He was a mickey-taker, not a crank. That's what that comment was, a mickey-take on the person who asked the question in the first place. He cracked jokes about us, but the bottom line was that ultimately he respected our club more than the RS after he retired. He was a football man, a good man.
 
Diogenes the Cynic said:
I doubt it because there is a big difference between service and active service in a environment where you experience casualties, loss and death first hand swiftly and repeatedly.
And it's different again because it's not a battlefield, completely different to people dying of disease. Doctors and nurses will be used to death and am sure will compartmentalise and use humour etc to get through but if we are being completely realistic the only people with any real experience of something like this would be the likes of Médecins Sans Frontières and people who worked with ebola (obviously not similar) etc.

There's going to be some horrible times ahead but people will find a way.

This is why i joke, im bloody miserable now.
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Of course there is a difference, yet from my experience you are conditioned to an extent where you'll be more resilient than your average member of the public.

I'm not saying it will not have an impact on such people, but I would expect that most will push on as required; it's only after that the real effects become obvious.

For example, when you've dealt with hundreds of serious assaults, dealt with murders and been to a fair few PMs (post-mortems) we'll you do become hardened.
 

PhilM said:
Of course there is a difference, yet from my experience you are conditioned to an extent where you'll be more resilient than your average member of the public.

I'm not saying it will not have an impact on such people, but I would expect that most will push on as required; it's only after that the real effects become obvious.

For example, when you've dealt with hundreds of serious assaults, dealt with murders and been to a fair few PMs (post-mortems) we'll you do become hardened.
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Oh i absolutely agree, i rambled a bit.

The important distinction is between service and active service.

The vast majority of service personnel, especially in countries where they have mandatory military service will never see front line action.
 
Diogenes the Cynic said:
People haven't got perspective because they cant understand it yet. Unless you've served in the military or work in some sort of healthcare setting then death feels far away.

Nobody will be talking about football in a month's time, the only conversation will be of food, blankets, medicine and the chances of survival.

I'm very glib because it is my sense of humour and it makes me feel better but if you want my opinion the death count will be horrendous and life will be changed from here forward.
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Terrible shout that lad.
 

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