This is my point, they have an influence on the internet . Not in real life. The terrible behaviour of people supporting football teams around the world recently is not BECAUSE of the internet, it's always happened but it's now just caught on video more and goes viral more. The ability of people on this thread (as an example) to see a post on Twitter for example from someone claiming to support Liverpool posting from wherever in the world who says something ridiculous , who then assume that this anonymous Twitter post is somehow a representation of Liverpool fans as a whole is incredible. I mean, I assume you're all adults. But there is no filter whatsoever . This is my point. The Liverpool are lucky, Liverpool are [Poor language removed] theme throughout this thread is written by actual adults and anyone who disgarees and dares to suggest that they actually be quite good is labelled one of them and that's it. It's behaviour that I'd expect from children.
I will you bid you all farewell anyway. My only ask is to consider the embarrassment that this thread is to both reds and blues .
I understand your point, but mine was that there is a dialectic between the two. In my view the decent Liverpool fans that are out there (and there are lots, often lads from the city I would say) have not done enough to challenge the sort of behaviour you have seen in such instances predominately online. It has now got to a point where the majority don't just refuse to challenge it, but actually get on board with it and accuse anyone who makes a broad point about neoliberalism and (lets face it 21st century colonialism that is encompassed in western English teams conquering the world) of being in the wrong. The lunatics are now running that particular asylum and broadly set the hegemonic parameters with which it now means to support Liverpool.
If you have an issue with the behaviour of LFC fans online I am in full support of this. My advice would be (politely) to go and tackle that. It's unacceptable. I have no idea what you are doing coming on here, to attack people who are largely trying to challenge that prevailing culture that has brought needless toxicity into the game.
I have never urged all Liverpool fans are any expletive. Yet I am regularly subjected to numerous pile ons which are often homophobic (I can only assume like their "god" fowler they presume anyone who writes in sentences can't be heterosexual) and threatening in their intention. Lets not try to make out it's two sides of the same coin, it is not. You have people like me, who re trying to calmly and respectfully engage in debate, who are continually subject to abuse. This threat tries to chronicle the inconsistency of such behaviour and why that is wrong. I am unsure why you feel the need to look to verbalise penalise those at this end of the spectrum. If I didn't know better I would suggest you are looking to deliberately apologise for the behaviour of your supporters.
Either way, this thread, as a window of not abuse, but of honesty and intellect rigour to shine a light to the narcissism of LFC supporters is not going to shut down. Deep down I think that is what really eats away at Liverpool supporters. There's nothing that annoys narcissists more in my experience than honesty.