Different generations of Toffees understanding each other

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Barks is the type of player I would have worshiped as a kid and young teen. I'm 26 now and find I'm at an age where a player has to do his time and score the od winner here and there v man u and pool to get my admiration. I guess worshiping Jeffers and Rooney does that and, also, my ultimate childhood hero is Duncan Ferguson. It puts things in perspective though.
I use to hear Evertonians sticking Ferguson down a peg. It would frustrate me but as I gauge today's player up against Ferguson, so did certain Evertonians have players from the the best period in Evertons history to compare to Dunc. Being a kid and teen ya don't wanna hear any smack about your hero but I'm older now and so with age I come to understand all generations of Toffees. Its been a slow learning curb because growing up in Dublin I could go months without seeing a Toffee until I came over for the annual game or two.

I guess I made this a thread of its own is to get a discussion going on such things as

# unified perspective from younger and older generations of Toffees on players and success

# and for foreign Evertonians, their perspective on it from the outside
 

Barkley is the type of player I would have worshipped as a kid and young teen too.

I'll be 49 next month and I worship him now.

I like exciting players.
 
My old man knocks Ferguson a bit.

Says he was a brilliant player on his day but had too many injuries or suspensions that just happened to be before long away trips or Boxing Day games. Also said he could go from being McCarthy on speed to Yakubu within the space of a week.

As a 19 year old I've never really seen an Everton legend. Cahill probably closest IMO.
 
Im surprised at the amount of young blues who dont remember the really dark days of the early and late 90's, ha you think its ad onlyu spending 15 mill in a transfer window now and missing out marginally on the CL....................!

LOL
 
My old man knocks Ferguson a bit.

Says he was a brilliant player on his day but had too many injuries or suspensions that just happened to be before long away trips or Boxing Day games. Also said he could go from being McCarthy on speed to Yakubu within the space of a week.

As a 19 year old I've never really seen an Everton legend. Cahill probably closest IMO.


This will sound bad but Ive kind of forgotten about Cahill, he was good at what he did but always felt he was very limited. In barren times, the 50s, 71-84 and 96- present you would have to be a super talented player to be legend, I wasn't around in the 70s but it seems to me that Bob Latchford is the only player to last the test of time likewise with Hickson in the 50s.
 

Everton are strange I remember when Jamie Carragher said no one wants to grow up to be a full-back, Yet I imagine most young evertonians now want to be like Baines and soon if Seamus has another season like he's been playing in the last 18 months he will be a club hero too
 
All strikers who play for us have to meet the Sharp test for me, so far none have and only Lukaku has the potential if we sign him, Ferguson was the closest in passion, but spent far too often missing games through injury or lack of self control and getting banned.

Similarly for technical ability and just pure gracefulness on the ball, they have to measure up to Steven, few have ever done so, maybe Kanchelskis being the only one so far.

No keeper will ever compare to Southall
 
My old man knocks Ferguson a bit.

Says he was a brilliant player on his day but had too many injuries or suspensions that just happened to be before long away trips or Boxing Day games. Also said he could go from being McCarthy on speed to Yakubu within the space of a week.

As a 19 year old I've never really seen an Everton legend. Cahill probably closest IMO.

Your old man is quite right Ferguson was never an EFC Legend - A great player plagued by injuries - if you see his days in Scotland as a younger player he was a complete centre forward - His early days with us - his debut will go down in Fokelore as it was v the dreaded over the park - He never was a consistent player to be a legend - A great likable rouge of a player and now coach!
 

Ross excites me and I have been going the match since 1971.

No player in all my long years has made me hold my breath in anticipation the way Doolafoo has this season.

No matter what age a fellow is, a new player doing great things on the pitch will excite him.

Age doesn't come into it.

Old and young alike have been bored witless by the dross of the fifteen or so seasons prior to this one.

But now both me and my teenage nephew can't wait for match days such is the excitement round the Grand Old Team these days.

We are both reborn.

Duncan McKenzie used to get me out of my seat in the old days.

Dave Thomas when he set off down the left wing.

Kanchelskis and Limpar.

Wayne, of course.

Big Dunc and my all time favourite player, Big Bob.

(when we had nowt else we still had Dunc and Latch)

Even R R Drenthe for an all too brief period a couple years ago.

You young blokes, you will never get tired of seeing great players at Goodison.

You will never compare them to past generations of players and think they don't measure up.

And in thirty ŷears time you will still romanticise about Ross, Seamus, Gerald, Wayne, Big Dunc and all the great players of your youth.

But you will still love the new players lighting up your lives every bit as much.

Trust me on this :)
 
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Ross excites me and I have been hoping the match since 1971.

No player in all my long years has made me hold my breath in anticipation the way Doolafoo has this season.

No matter what age a fellow is, a new player doing great things on the pitch will excite him.

Age doesn't come into it.

Old and young alike have been bored witless by the dross of the fifteen or so seasons prior to this one.

But now both me and my teenage nephew can't wait for match days such is the excitement round the Grand Old Team these days.

We are both reborn.

Duncan McKenzie used to get me out of my seat in the old days.

Dave Thomas when he set off down the left wing.

Kanchelskis and Limpar.

Wayne, of course.

Big Dunc and my all time favourite player, Big Bob.

(when we had nowt else we still had Dunc and Latch)

Even R R Drenthe for an all too brief period a couple years ago.

You young blokes, you will never get tired of seeing great players at Goodison.

You will never compare them to past generations of players and think they don't measure up.

And in thirty ŷears time you will still romanticise about Ross, Seamus, Gerald, Wayne, Big Dunc and all the great players of your youth.

But you will still love the new players lighting up your lives every bit as much.

Trust me on this :)

This, all day long.
 
My old man knocks Ferguson a bit.

Says he was a brilliant player on his day but had too many injuries or suspensions that just happened to be before long away trips or Boxing Day games. Also said he could go from being McCarthy on speed to Yakubu within the space of a week.

As a 19 year old I've never really seen an Everton legend. Cahill probably closest IMO.


You would be right to say Tim Chill he carried the Duncan Ferguson torch. It had not been picked up yet in my opinion. It lies at Barkleys feet.
 
Barkley is the type of player I would have worshipped as a kid and young teen too.

I'll be 49 next month and I worship him now.

I like exciting players.


Barkley may excite the old guard but unless he stays with us for a long time and/or wins a thing or two he won't compare to the trinity or sheedys trophy cabinet. He won't be admired like I thought Roo would have.
 
Great OP! I'm an older fan from the States. Having only recently become aware of the joy of following this great club, I fit two of the three categories. One of my favorite things about Everton is listening to older fans get excited by, and make comparisons to, players from the past. Even though I never had the pleasure of seeing them play, I never-the-less feel as though I'm being "plugged into" our club's storied past. I also can't wait to be in the position of saying, "He's going to be better than Ross!"
 

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