All after the fact. If the daft red card doesn't happen, those incidents dont.[/QUOTE
Totally agree. I've had Red noses saying this and that to me today about the Hibbert & Fellaini tackles that went unpuinished (yellow cards for me). But like you say, if Atkinson doesn't send Rodwell off, either those incidents don't happen or at worst they still do and yellow cards are dished out. Atkinson was doing his best not to produce a card in the second half once he'd realised (or seen evidence) that he'd dropped a clanger!