2025/26 David Moyes

Logically I know that this is correct, but I still can’t reconcile that idea with the actual implementation of the players bought. And I don’t mean that to absolve Moyes of culpability, because at the end of the day he’s the one training the players, improving the players and selecting the players for games.

I felt last summer there was still a club to manager disconnect, and even if Moyes was the deciding vote there was clearly still pressure on him to go a certain way (young, unproven, high resale). Evidently last summer we had a foot in each camp only for the manager to totally disregard one of the camps once the games started. If that happens again then the manager will need to be changed.



It would be a disappointment for the season to fade away, for sure. A wasted opportunity, and one from which we would have little to show. The improvement in Garner and addition of KDH would be about it, though easily countered by our best and most important young player being crippled by injury to an alarming degree.

But given where we’ve come from and what the last five years have been, I can forgive one of these seasons. I appreciate not everyone will feel the same, but I personally feel Moyes gets one middling, non-threatening gap-fill of a season. I don’t think a 12th place finish, which is absolute worst case scenario from here, is a hanging offence.

Which is why this summer is so critical. My mind will be made up within a few months of next season, as at that point we’ll be able to see what the plan truly is under Moyes. Are we trying to create something sustainable which could grow to become great, or is it a year-by-year proposition with a lower ceiling and marginally higher floor? He’ll need to adapt for it to be the former.


Player-wise our best chance to kick on is to qualify for Europe:

It should attract a few more better players and it'll hand a lot of game time to those players Moyes has pushed to the margins of the club.

Let's not over-egg whats happened this season. We're still on a point less than what we achieved in the last two seasons and we're likely to surpass it by the season's end by about 5 points IMO.

£110M will have been a massive waste to 'achieve' that.

Let''s make a clean break: get shut of Moyes and let's give ourselves a chance at pushing on and rebooting for sure this season in our new stadium.
 
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To be clear, I haven't shifted my position on a top half finish since I stated that if we get it I can see how Moyes would get to stay on.

I've said that if we finish bottom half though that there's no way TFG can reward that with a new contract. I've stated that throughout.

That's because we've seen a lot of cash spent and if Moyes has only shifted the dial by 2 or 3 places on what we've had in the last two seasons in terms of where our points total would have / did get us position-wise then that's failure.

Personally I'd hope under those circumstances TFG would not just pass on a new contract for him with 12 months left on his current contract, I'd hope that they cut the Gordian Knot by sacking him and just get one of the very good managers who'll become available this summer and take advantage of that availability. That's what a well run, efficient club governs like...

....this is Everton though, so I'm sure that even if we finish bottom half those in charge will bend to the Moyes-friendly fluffers in the media and take the easy way out and just decide to keep the mediocre plate spinning exercise going with an extension to take him to the summer of 2028.


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A lot of your posts recently have been like this, or worse/just insults. Someone reported you for it a while back that you get away with just insulting people regularly - it needs to stop/it's not constructive to the forum.

so i insult people?

na sorry
mate i’m well liked on here

we all have
an opinion

i don’t”

verbally attack anyone “

some posters literally spam the threads with the same thing

and also others do point it out

and yet it carry’s on

you can only get
the same point
 
Judging from what Iroegbunam Armstrong Alcaraz and Rohl have shown this season there is zero reason why 37 year old Idrissa Gueye is getting 101 minutes in a derby match. Zero.

If McNeil had been sold in January as was the intention of the club, our options would have been George and Dibling. Palace’s inbox doesn’t get monitored correctly and all of a sudden through no action of our own McNeil is back with us and these two are suddenly not good enough to start games again?

There’s no logic to it, especially when you see McNeil make an error that was absolutely catastrophic for us.
Gueye's still a better player than those players I reckon. Moyes's substitutions are by far the biggest problem I have with him, so I don't think Gueye should be getting ragged for 90+ minutes a game, but the starting two is fine with me. People act like Armstrong, Rohl and Iroegbunam can all play as well as Garner, with Dewsbury-Hall playing deeper as well.

Gueye's 36 by the way. Seen too much adding of numbers to make people sound older recently.
 
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Gueye's still a better player than those players I reckon. Moyes's substitutions are by far the biggest problem I have with him, so I don't think Gueye should be getting ragged for 90+ minutes a game, but the starting two is fine with me. People act like Armstrong, Rohl and Iroegbuman can all play as well as Garner, with Dewsbury-Hall playing deeper as well.

Gueye's 36 by the way. Seen too much adding of numbers to make people sound older recently.

rohls signed now so you’d expect to see him come along next season
 
so i insult people?

na sorry
mate i’m well liked on here

we all have
an opinion

i don’t”

verbally attack anyone “

some posters literally spam the threads with the same thing

and also others do point it out

and yet it carry’s on

you can only get
the same point

You can accept the point, or continue but know this - my post there was a courtesy prior to me banning you the next time you think you can call someone a fake fan, vile, a bell, bum boy or "yada, yada, yada/blah blah blah" whatever. It's not constructive. It's not your personal playground no matter how popular you think you are. As I say, knock the snide on the head.
 
Gueye's still a better player than those players I reckon. Moyes's substitutions are by far the biggest problem I have with him, so I don't think Gueye should be getting ragged for 90+ minutes a game, but the starting two is fine with me. People act like Armstrong, Rohl and Iroegbuman can all play as well as Garner, with Dewsbury-Hall playing deeper as well.

Gueye's 36 by the way. Seen too much adding of numbers to make people sound older recently.

No other premier league team has a 36 year old starting in midfield every week and playing every minute. There’s a reason for that. Everton fans keep just blindly saying Gueye is our best midfielder. I don’t see it, I see a player just chasing the ball, leaving his position, being played around, and sloppy in possession. He has some good games from time to time but I’d take any of the others in there every day of the week because maybe then we wouldn’t be half a yard behind in every game we play.

KDH Garner Gueye is not a midfield to take you to the upper reaches of the table. Too slow, too weak, too short, and Gueye isn’t good enough on the ball. We need much more mobility in there akin to when we had McCarthy and Barkley, or even when Onana and Doucoure played together and had some decent form (rare I know).

The majority of Everton teams this century have been too slow and too weak in the engine room. Osman Arteta Davies Barry Gueye Siggurdson James KDH Garner Gomes Cleverley Allan - not a yard of pace between them
 
To be fair, is there a massive difference in style with Moyes, Dyche and Fat Sam?

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so i insult people?

na sorry
mate i’m well liked on here

we all have
an opinion

i don’t”

verbally attack anyone “

some posters literally spam the threads with the same thing

and also others do point it out

and yet it carry’s on

you can only get
the same point
Sorry @Matty, but @GrandOldTeam is correct. I, for one, have been on the end of your gormless insults for ages.

Long may it continue. :p
 
Dont you want to see Everton do better?

You didn’t last year when you told us we were being unreasonable and ungrateful for expecting better than 16th. Your only desire is to see Everton safe don’t forget. They’re your standards.

 

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