2024/25 David Moyes

[matty1878]

I know. Fair points too. Howver I was factoring all that in when saying Dyche would have had us safe.

The other clubs were so rank we could practically have carried on getting more draws which we were still well capable of and survived with ease.

That's the reality of it.

the reality is we have moyes

not dyche or southgate

back moyes as
he’s doing what we need

 

[matty1878]

Conte will come and go Spurs style, Moyes builds a platform for the next decade if we get it right

 

[MisterJ]

I wasn't thrilled about Moyes coming back (still burnt from Kendall 2 and 3), but can really have no issues with how things gave panned out.

I don't know if it's because he's old school compared to other managers, but he seems to be more tactically aware, he schooled Howe on Sunday.

He's not wedded to a plan A and when that fails, also using plan A. He's able to see a game and change things and that really has been the difference for us.

Long winded way of saying, he's done well, now better it next season

 

[Walken]

I wasn't thrilled about Moyes coming back (still burnt from Kendall 2 and 3), but can really have no issues with how things gave panned out.

I don't know if it's because he's old school compared to other managers, but he seems to be more tactically aware, he schooled Howe on Sunday.

He's not wedded to a plan A and when that fails, also using plan A. He's able to see a game and change things and that really has been the difference for us.

Long winded way of saying, he's done well, now better it next season

Did the same against Fulham when he sat a man on their DCM to stop them building after a bad start

 

[Delargeinho]

I wasn't thrilled about Moyes coming back (still burnt from Kendall 2 and 3), but can really have no issues with how things gave panned out.

I don't know if it's because he's old school compared to other managers, but he seems to be more tactically aware, he schooled Howe on Sunday.

He's not wedded to a plan A and when that fails, also using plan A. He's able to see a game and change things and that really has been the difference for us.

Long winded way of saying, he's done well, now better it next season

Jep, for me also Forest was very remarkable against a team that looked hard to beat at the time. Which means already 2 wins against at the time top 4 sides.

Probably pragmatism is the right word to call. Play to strengths not giving up what was working pretty well, but findings ideas to solve the biggest problem.

27 goals to 15 goals, and even improve a good defensive record 19 to 25 goals.

 

[Rita_Poon]

The only way to look at this is as follows:

Either Dyche or Moyes would have saved us from relegation this season. No question about that.

The upside to doing it with Dyche in charge would have been that we'd have made a clean break today with Dyche and be in the process of getting in the quality manager we need. Instead, we're now stuck with the ambitionless, expectation-managing Moyes for years.

 

[sd_1992]

Conte will come and go Spurs style, Moyes builds a platform for the next decade if we get it right

Conte is a cert for the Juve job

Based on what exactly? Whether or not he will is up for debate tbh.

Hasn’t exactly got a track record of it? The massive rebuilds needed at us and West Ham at the end of his tenures suggests that actually he probably doesn’t like players of the age to help with that.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Myself and others are simply sticking to our guns from first time around: that he's a limited manager who believes he's more beneficial to us than we are to him. That's arse about face and always has been.

We're a historically significant football club and he's, practically, a no mark manager.

Others may have liked him then called him Judas and now revere him again. They're the goal post shifters.

please name names.

you're a fork and spoon operator at most.

 

[Walken]

Based on what exactly? Whether or not he will is up for debate tbh.

Hasn’t exactly got a track record of it? The massive rebuilds needed at us and West Ham at the end of his tenures suggests that actually he probably doesn’t like players of the age to help with that.

He left Everton a terrific platform, west ham also imo

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I wasn't thrilled about Moyes coming back (still burnt from Kendall 2 and 3), but can really have no issues with how things gave panned out.

I don't know if it's because he's old school compared to other managers, but he seems to be more tactically aware, he schooled Howe on Sunday.

He's not wedded to a plan A and when that fails, also using plan A. He's able to see a game and change things and that really has been the difference for us.

Long winded way of saying, he's done well, now better it next season

This is exactly the reason I think all these people who are obsessed with “young coaches” with “new ideas” are fools. The longer a talented person does something the better they get at it.

Moyes has never stopped learning and should actually have a massive bank of knowledge that works in his favour rather than working against him.

Bobby Robson was the same. He was open to new ideas and experiences and was a brilliant coach. Same with Ferguson.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Based on what exactly? Whether or not he will is up for debate tbh.

Hasn’t exactly got a track record of it? The massive rebuilds needed at us and West Ham at the end of his tenures suggests that actually he probably doesn’t like players of the age to help with that.

West Ham’s problems are down to dysfunctional senior management and their constant interference. Moyes was able to work around it in ways other people couldn’t. But he got worn down in the end like everyone else.

 

[allen]

This is exactly the reason I think all these people who are obsessed with “young coaches” with “new ideas” are fools. The longer a talented person does something the better they get at it.

Moyes has never stopped learning and should actually have a massive bank of knowledge that works in his favour rather than working against him.

Bobby Robson was the same. He was open to new ideas and experiences and was a brilliant coach. Same with Ferguson.

It’s not a given that an experienced coach moves with the times, though.

Many calcify, shift in to stubbornness and refuse to entertain new ideas.

The ideal is a mix of experience, innovation and adaptability.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

The only way to look at this is as follows:

Either Dyche or Moyes would have saved us from relegation this season. No question about that.

The upside to doing it with Dyche in charge would have been that we'd have made a clean break today with Dyche and be in the process of getting in the quality manager we need. Instead, we're now stuck with the ambitionless, expectation-managing Moyes for years.

Well that's certainly one way to look at it, certainly not the only way, but you know this.

 

[MikeH72]

Well that's certainly one way to look at it, certainly not the only way, but you know this.

Gareth Southgate

 

[The binman chronicles]

The patterns of play where we have an idea of how to move the ball up the pitch and work a chance, is just amazing to see after being in the dark for so long. The fact that Myko was able to find Alcaraz twice with a cross into the box just shows the transformation.

To be able to look forward to next season straight after the season has ended is all we want. The hope is there we can kick on again.