2024/25 David Moyes

[Exeter_Gently]

There’s no point arguing with him. His weird torch carrying for Martinez says it all.

Ha am not arguing mate,am merely present David with facts.

The truth will always out.

 

[davek]

I assume if Moyes is someone still to blame for United, then your favourite Martinez is the reason why Everton have been fighting relegation for so many years. Took a top 6 team and dragged them down to lower mid table.

He spent f.a. and got us 5th/11th/11th and two cup SF appearances...and Koeman replaced him spending £250M and good us to 6th.

Hardly the same thing.

Koeman ruined this club. Look no further than him.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Big wage packet.

Moyes was not who they wanted, he is a stop gap. He needs to regain the early form of January and Feb. If we stumble these last few games and get another 5-6 points he will be gone in the summer.

So who are all these miracle coaches who are so much better than David Moyes? I’d love to find one, given how our post-Moyes appointments have generally gone.

 

[Goat]

I've always stated Moyes lost my trust when he criticised fans over Kenwright....and then his Judas performance.

Never forgiven or forgotten.

As much as that as the cowardly football against 'top' teams for me.

Sound, Moyes was a bit of penis after he left, the fanbase rightly went for him.

But hes back now, doing a decent job all told.

He won me over with his cracking start, now its fizzling out, tired squad, with many eyes on their future in the summer, I get it, hell even the fanbase is tired, last season at Goodison and its like a morgue each week.

The fanbase has suffered, its time to heal and what better way than a kind old man in a grey cardy.

In Moyes we Trust.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

He spent f.a. and got us 5th/11th/11th and two cup SF appearances...and Koeman replaced him spending £250M and good us to 6th.

Hardly the same thing.

Koeman ruined this club. Look no further than him.

As soon the Moyes foundations eroded and Bobby’s influence became more deeply ingrained the levels fell off a cliff.

 

[Zatara]

Results aren’t really important in my opinion.

Performences with a limited team are good we’re competitive and we can + some places for some extra prize money - it’s not mission critical.

The great boon in the remaining games is continuing to inbed a culture, raise standards, put systems in place and advance plan for next season.

We have an opportunity now to give lads like Patterson, Broja, Chermitti and Charly games and an opportunity now to the, let them show they are worthy of a career here.

All of the above are now the priority for me rather than results if I’m honest.

50/50. Results are very important and also giving certain players a run of games is crucial prior to the summer window.

For this reason it made using Patterson and Iroegbunam astute decisions. However using Broja, Doucoure and Harrison were the opposite, one could suggest they were stupid.

He literally did better than arguably the best manager of all time! A lot of people will play down Moyes while bigging up the latest flavour of the month. Iraola was the latest, but he’s been struggling of late.

West Ham thought they could do better than Moyes when he had them top six at the end of December last season. Look how that has turned out for them.

No one has slagged off Moyes about the results -- have they?

Needs to play Alcaraz in the 10 instead of picking runners.

1million % yes.

This is his last hurrah so why is he not grasping the nettles and thinking how he can turn us into one of the elite sides -- rather than persisting with shoehorning dross into the team.

He's done well but redressed to the mean after a new manager bounce. 5 points from the last 6 games. Won 3 on the bounce just after taking over but Dyche would have two sequences a season like that and then not win for months. Also lost at home in the FA Cup to Bournemouth when that could have opened up for us with most of the big guns out.

18 points from 12 games is a good return though and is top half form.

New manager bounce then back to mostly draws with a more expansive but similarly effective brand of football.

More Alcaraz...less Doucoure.

It was that utter clown at Brentford.

We should be thankful it's Moyes.

How do you know this?

He's lost 1 game in 10.

You people are acting like he's losing every week.

Yesterday we played Beto, Harrison and Doucs.

Pep couldn't win with those players.

He chose to play those players.

A new manager bounce followed by a sequence of mostly draws...

I for one am throughly enjoying this boring period after the horror of the last few seasons. He's worked miracles since coming back, squeezing every last drop out of several very poor/average at best players.

Think now is a good opportunity to stop playing Doucoure in the #10, and to give some other lads a go to see if they have a future here. He did that yesterday with Patterson when he could've easily played Young. Patterson took his chance and played well.

Yes its fair to say Iroegbunam, Patterson and the continued use of O'Brien all made sense.

The Alcaraz and Chermiti decisions are extremely concerning though.

 

[Eggs]

Moyes will build a team...over ten years.

I say we can do better than the minty cardy wearing dullard.

…I have a feeling Moyes only wants to be here for the mid-term, I’d have doubts he’s even wanting another contract.

There’s a massive job on this summer, with so many players leaving I’m really not expecting a major rebuild within our spend envelope. I assume the owners will want a bit of stability and signs of progression going into the new stadium, next season could be a real challenge.

 

[Moomin]

So who are all these miracle coaches who are so much better than David Moyes? I’d love to find one, given how our post-Moyes appointments have generally gone.

I've not said anything about Miracle coaches.

Just stated that TFG have gone through a number of managers in a short space of time at Roma.

Do you think they will be different with Everton?

 

[Bryan+]

50/50. Results are very important and also giving certain players a run of games is crucial prior to the summer window.

For this reason it made using Patterson and Iroegbunam astute decisions. However using Broja, Doucoure and Harrison were the opposite, one could suggest they were stupid.



No one has slagged off Moyes about the results -- have they?



1million % yes.

This is his last hurrah so why is he not grasping the nettles and thinking how he can turn us into one of the elite sides -- rather than persisting with shoehorning dross into the team.



New manager bounce then back to mostly draws with a more expansive but similarly effective brand of football.

More Alcaraz...less Doucoure.



How do you know this?



He chose to play those players.

A new manager bounce followed by a sequence of mostly draws...



Yes its fair to say Iroegbunam, Patterson and the continued use of O'Brien all made sense.

The Alcaraz and Chermiti decisions are extremely concerning though.

Where is evidence that Chermitti is anything but absolute garbage?


14 international goals in SIX years and even less senior goals. The lad is absolute cooked.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I've not said anything about Miracle coaches.

Just stated that TFG have gone through a number of managers in a short space of time at Roma.

Do you think they will be different with Everton?

Maybe not, but it reeks of incompetence to be switching coaches like underpants.

 

[Goat]

50/50. Results are very important and also giving certain players a run of games is crucial prior to the summer window.

For this reason it made using Patterson and Iroegbunam astute decisions. However using Broja, Doucoure and Harrison were the opposite, one could suggest they were stupid.



No one has slagged off Moyes about the results -- have they?



1million % yes.

This is his last hurrah so why is he not grasping the nettles and thinking how he can turn us into one of the elite sides -- rather than persisting with shoehorning dross into the team.



New manager bounce then back to mostly draws with a more expansive but similarly effective brand of football.

More Alcaraz...less Doucoure.



How do you know this?



He chose to play those players.

A new manager bounce followed by a sequence of mostly draws...



Yes its fair to say Iroegbunam, Patterson and the continued use of O'Brien all made sense.

The Alcaraz and Chermiti decisions are extremely concerning though.

Hes picking a team that he thinks can get results.

I dont like it either, but hes getting results, clearly not the results we want, but its "working".

I would love to see Dixon get a run, Charly and Indy at 8 with Garner holding, Chermo up top, Doucs watching from the stands.

But I had to cheat on FM to win the title, so I doubt I have what it takes to manage in the PL.

Its a cliche, but the manager sees these players in training, 5 days a week, for hours on end they watch them, against their peers, so I think sadly we have to bow to their judgement. Not saying they are right, but who is to say that if Moyes didnt play Doucs, Harrison, Beto or give Ashley Young a run out, who is to say that instead of no win in 6, lets say we have 6 straight defeats?

We will never know.

 

[Bedfordblue]

If United and Spurs sort themselves out then it will be very difficult to finish top 8 given how good Newcastle and Villa are. Let alone Forest and a few other pretty decent sides.

I agree, but I don’t think that will get in the way of TFG’s ambitions.

 

[Moomin]

Maybe not, but it reeks of incompetence to be switching coaches like underpants.

To be fair they done the right thing in getting rid of Dyche and Moyes has done a decent job. He deserves next season.

Thats why he needs a strong finish to the season.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Iraola is another flavour of the month manager like hundreds of others who've come and gone down the years.

Moyes will still be managing in the Prem when Iraola in back in Spain managing in Segunda B.

Moyes isnt the 3rd longest serving manager in Premier League history for nothing.

Tbf the next few spots are owned by Allardyce, Redknapp, Mark Hughes and Steve Bruce, longevity in the EPL isn’t necessarily a yard stick for ability.

 

[Zatara]

Where is evidence that Chermitti is anything but absolute garbage?


14 international goals in SIX years and even less senior goals. The lad is absolute cooked.

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You think its sensible to judge a 20 year old developing player from another league, on substitute appearances and international appearances -- classing them all as full matches -- while not knowing who his team played or how he was used?

Then complain about his goalscoring record internationally at youth level since he was 14 years old?

Lets judge Harrison Armstrong on how many caps he has over the last 6 years?

Maybe not, but it reeks of incompetence to be switching coaches like underpants.

Youre getting it...look at who they hired, it reads even worse. The Southampton manager was a nightmare.

Certainly they seem trigger happy.

Hes picking a team that he thinks can get results.

I dont like it either, but hes getting results, clearly not the results we want, but its "working".

I would love to see Dixon get a run, Charly and Indy at 8 with Garner holding, Chermo up top, Doucs watching from the stands.

But I had to cheat on FM to win the title, so I doubt I have what it takes to manage in the PL.

Its a cliche, but the manager sees these players in training, 5 days a week, for hours on end they watch them, against their peers, so I think sadly we have to bow to their judgement. Not saying they are right, but who is to say that if Moyes didnt play Doucs, Harrison, Beto or give Ashley Young a run out, who is to say that instead of no win in 6, lets say we have 6 straight defeats?

We will never know.

If he is putting out teams to win games, then should we not be frightened at the players hes choosing to use?

Last win, Alcaraz was super.

When was the last time Harrison or Doucoure were?