2024/25 David Moyes

[Brett Angell Delight]

All managers inevitable have to build on someone elses foundations.

What if we went younger now, they got their players in, built their own foundation, and they absolutely flopped? Someone that has to come in on their foundations.

Look at Martinez - don't think he'd ever complain about the foundation Moyes left him.

Honestly mate I’m exhausted by all of these “what if?” conversations. The same questions exist for Moyes, too. I had hoped this deathly aversion to making an exciting appointment had died with the last regime, that’s all.

 

[Gilbert..]

Except the useless divvy in a piss stained cardigan has nothing in his locker to convince he can keep us up.

Im having him over dyche every day of the week.
Only manager to lose to Southampton.
Koff. Useless.

 

[T Bone]

Prity much has been away from us as long as he had been with us. Spanning a quarter of a century.

Jesus christ. The good times in the 80s was 15 years prior. And I thought that was ancient history back then.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Aren’t most managers visionary? I’m sure that having some kind of plan is generally part of the job. Even Wayne surely had some kind of vision for what he wanted at Plymouth.

I think the only vision Rooney had was Mackies , beers and a granny after full time .

 

[Nymzee]

Honestly mate I’m exhausted by all of these “what if?” conversations. The same questions exist for Moyes, too. I had hoped this deathly aversion to making an exciting appointment had died with the last regime, that’s all.

I mean it's exhausting when you only want to see the negatives in this appointment I guess.

 

[CrustySack]

When we sacked Marco Silva in December 2019/we were in the relegation zone and Moyes was tipped to replace him. Chuckling at the response back then;

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Thread 'David Moyes'

December 10, 2019

Welcome (back) to Everton. Big market mover this morning.

Thoughts? I think HIGHLY controversial

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We've been so battered over the years, we're now a much more forgiving fanbase.

24 hours is a long time in football let alone 5 years, and a lot has happened to us and the world since 2019. Maybe I'm getting old but I'm tired of upheavel. I need some calm, healing waters and so do Everton.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

That’s the point - based on his record it is by far the least likely outcome.

Why though mate? Because of his record with us between 11 and 22 years ago? Or because of his record with a completely different team recently? Or because of his abysmal record with a few clubs - one of them the best in the country at the time - in between?

Managers who don’t know the league have come in and done well with teams near the bottom. Experienced managers have flopped.

If he does an amazing job, great, but he’s not the only one capable of doing it.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

That’s the point - based on his record it is by far the least likely outcome.

Not unlikely though , he was atrociously poor at Sunderland.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Not unlikely though , he was atrociously poor at Sunderland.

Sunderland were doomed. Owner had pulled the plug.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

I mean it's exhausting when you only want to see the negatives in this appointment I guess.

As opposed to steadfastly refusing to believe there could possibly BE any negatives, and believing that absolutely any other appointment would be virtually guaranteed to be an unmitigated failure? I’ve said repeatedly it’s not an entirely negative appointment, just very uninspired.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Why though mate? Because of his record with us between 11 and 22 years ago? Or because of his record with a completely different team recently? Or because of his abysmal record with a few clubs - one of them the best in the country at the time - in between?

Managers who don’t know the league have come in and done well with teams near the bottom. Experienced managers have flopped.

If he does an amazing job, great, but he’s not the only one capable of doing it.

His record a West Ham is excellent. Best performing British manager during that period.

The thing is, he was desperate for this job and will give it everything. Who else is a viable candidate?

 

[UltraVires]

Kept us up twice and out of the relegation zone but 'he wasn't doing it'.

OK.

He supposedly admitted he had done everything he could with us and that’s what caused him to go at a time nobody would choose to change manager. That says it all.

 

[Jebus_lives]

That's fair but I was starting to be optimistic and pulling the rose tinted glasses out.

This is a wake up call.

I think it's a pragmatic approach from an ownership that have invested a lot of money and want to minimise risk.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Sunderland were doomed. Owner had pulled the plug.

He was still poor .
I don’t thing that is arguable.
No manager is a copper bottomed guarantee against relegation, to be fair.
The next month will be interesting, whether there is enough bounce in our new manager to give us some breathing space, or whether one of the teams below us starts picking up points .
If you are not going to challenge for titles or CL places I suppose annual relegation battles add some interest .

 

[jaycee]

The one thing I don't get about this appointment, if the stories about wanting Potter carried any substance, how do you go from him to Moyes? Everything about the 2 of them seems complete opposites, style of play, personality, so how do you go from one to the other, what type of continuity is there