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David Moyes - Taking a knife to a gunfight at West Ham, Part 2

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RhylBlue said:
I made a post a while back saying Moyes' tenure as Everton manager looked better because subsequent managers have failed. I'd say he's further embellished his reputation after doing such a stellar job at West Ham. The only club he has really failed at is United. It was just too big of a move for him. I give him a pass for Sunderland as they were a shambles of a club while he was manager (and still are by most accounts).
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And Sociedad.

So it's 3 jobs. He was also didn't get his contract extended at West Ham first time either.

But he's doing well now. And he's settled.

Still won't win anything.
 

Black Belt Jones said:
That Utd side was absolutely finished - them winning the league was like Pheidippides arriving in Athens to say we've won, and then keeling over stone dead. Scholes actually looked like it was 50/50 on whether he'd make it through 90 mins with both lungs intact by the end, Ferdinand, Rooney, Vidic - yesterday's men.

That dressing room needed to be lost, set on fire, and thrown in a bin but that takes time - and tbh was too big a job for anyone let alone Moyes. If anything he went in too soft because he thought he had more time than he did. e.g. Appointing Ryan Giggs as #2, a man who speaks with forked tongue, was a sop to the old guard and not something anyone would ever do if they were intent on cleaning house.
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And no one wanted to play for Moyes or even want to come to play for him which is why he tried raiding his old club.
 
kenada_blue said:
And no one wanted to play for Moyes or even want to come to play for him which is why he tried raiding his old club.
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Ed Woodward was lowballing the likes of Barcelona, and he lowballed us. I think his amateur antics played a bigger part than Moyes. Toni Kroos agreed to sign for him, don't forget.
 

JobForTheMoyes said:
He also cancelled the Kroos signing, which would have been far better.

Moyes had a bad spell after Man Utd, but there he wasn’t given a fair chance.
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Cancelled 1 signing. Everyone else snubbed him.

He struggled to draw names and didn't do enough to pursuede the squad that he was a winner, didn't challenge to retain a title, fell out of the champions league for the first time in how many years.

Was up to him to prove the doubters wrong. If he finished at least in the top 4 he'd have survived longer rather than whinge that Ferdinand, Evra, Rooney, Van Persie, Vidic, Carrick, Fletcher were past it.
 
kenada_blue said:
Cancelled 1 signing. Everyone else snubbed him.

He struggled to draw names and didn't do enough to pursuede the squad that he was a winner, didn't challenge to retain a title, fell out of the champions league for the first time in how many years.

Was up to him to prove the doubters wrong. If he finished at least in the top 4 he'd have survived longer rather than whinge that Ferdinand, Evra, Rooney, Van Persie, Vidic, Carrick, Fletcher were past it.
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Thing is, I think it tooMoyes for Man Utd to realize how far they had fallen behind.

They literally went from being cheapskates to spending like a drunken sailor under LVG.

The fact Ferguson dragged Scholes out of retirement for one last title shows how badly they were creaking at the seams.
 
kenada_blue said:
Cancelled 1 signing. Everyone else snubbed him.

He struggled to draw names and didn't do enough to pursuede the squad that he was a winner, didn't challenge to retain a title, fell out of the champions league for the first time in how many years.

Was up to him to prove the doubters wrong. If he finished at least in the top 4 he'd have survived longer rather than whinge that Ferdinand, Evra, Rooney, Van Persie, Vidic, Carrick, Fletcher were past it.
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Legend has it that once it was impossible to get CL, his contract was done. Ergo, no big pay off. Ergo, the dead weird 6 year contract in the first place.
 


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