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Fair enough I suppose. Not for me though. The whole thing is broadcasted live on national television. Quite a few of the spectators are probably there as disaster tourists because if you don't have sufficient speed going up those hills you just fall over. Sometimes professional cyclists do; so the hobby variety most certainly will so if you're stuck in traffic you'll probably fall. Go stand next to the Koppenberg and you'll see tons of falling cyclists; hence the option now to avoid it since a lot of them are also scared to ride it and a considerable other part is overly confident. And then you'll end up in the newspaper/television like this:

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This is what happens to professionals if one falls; it's extremely difficult to start again after you've been obstructed (I could find a more recent photo, like Cancellara having to do the whole thing by foot but I prefer this photo):

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( link if the insert doesn't work: https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/flanders-koppenberg-crash-920.jpg)

Or alternatively get angry and slap photographers:

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(link: https://www.pezcyclingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/flanders-raas-koppenberg-920.jpg)


Side-note: if the pictures aren't functional; why?
In that last one is he (Raas) trying to belt the guy or is he putting his arm out for balance as he's falling off?
 

Would be quite a resurrection if some day Cavendish returns to a somewhat decent form. 8.50 in the first stage of Paris-Nice; did not finish in the second.
 
I think most are fit enough. Especially those that do the longer versions; you have to be a special kind of stupid to do 230 KM's without any training. Even the shortest one, 74 km, is quite difficult since it contains a lot of hills. I think it's more to do with very narrow roads, very difficult to pass (so a bit annoying for riders with a different pace-gears so you can't find your tempo, and once somebody stops good luck getting away underway again). On a col etc; there's plenty of space to pass, not so here. Especially on things like the koppenberg since cobbles are missing etc in some areas and you probably want to avoid that. If it's a wet edition it's even worse since than it's very slippery. For LBL the only ones I can remember are those of the Rue Naniot (but that's uphill).

The descent at one side of the Kemmelberg would result in carnage though; was always so in the pro-peleton. The issue being riders braking- it's an absolute no go you brake you fall, it's carnage. In 2007 it was particularly nasty, but that's Gent-Wevelgem (no longer down that side though; they now climb it - fractures all round, some guy even split his tongue in two):




That's the descent I was thinking of. If it rained that would be lethal I'd imagine.
 
Would be quite a resurrection if some day Cavendish returns to a somewhat decent form. 8.50 in the first stage of Paris-Nice; did not finish in the second.

Does look like he's finished. Bit of a gap for top sprinters as Greipel is also gone really, and Kittel seems to rarely challenge now. Time for someone to come through and dominate again.
 

That's the descent I was thinking of. If it rained that would be lethal I'd imagine.

That's the west-side of the Kemmelberg. Very dangerous (25 percent), you regularly read about recreational cyclists having very bad falls over there. Coincidentally the west-side of the Kemmelberg is a mass grave for 5000 French soldiers (WW I). Buried all over the west side; monument at the top.

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Does look like he's finished. Bit of a gap for top sprinters as Greipel is also gone really, and Kittel seems to rarely challenge now. Time for someone to come through and dominate again.

Intrinsically I think Groenewegen and Gaviria (he falls a lot though) are the fastest atm. Below that probably Ewan (big plus he has very little problems with mountains) and Jakobsen. Might forget a few. Kittel is still fast, but I think he has mental issues tbh.

Cavendish still wants to get the record of TdF wins. That ship has sailed I think; even if he might regain some form meaning that he could at least finish in the front of the bunch. I said it last year, but I accept it's probably hard to accept for him: it's better to call it a day.
 

The perfect solution for Team Sky?


Team Sky’s takeover by petrochemicals giant Ineos, which will be announced in the next 48 hours, has been described by Bradley Wiggins as the “ideal” outcome for Sir Dave Brailsford.

Wiggins said that Ineos would allow Brailsford carte blanche to run the team as he saw fit without being encumbered by commercial and sponsorship requirements.

He added that the team’s annual budget, about £30 million, would be “nothing” to Sir Jim Ratcliffe, the chairman and chief executive officer of the Ineos group.

Ratcliffe, Britain’s richest man, has a personal fortune estimated by The Sunday Times to be more than £21 billion.

Reports of interest from Ratcliffe – who also took over Ben Ainslie’s America’s Cup team last year – first surfaced this month, three months after BSkyB’s decision to pull the plug on the team after 10 years.

 
On the plus side, the budget is likely to remain high, possibly even higher, so the investment in the sport is retained, plus he has form with his support of Ben Ainslie's sailing team. It's also likely that Brailsford will retain a fair degree of autonomy over how the team work.

On the negative side, he's a bit of a tax dodging turd and he runs a chemical company. Still, I suppose when you look around the peleton, it's not exactly renowned for having white than white sponsors.
 
On the plus side, the budget is likely to remain high, possibly even higher, so the investment in the sport is retained, plus he has form with his support of Ben Ainslie's sailing team. It's also likely that Brailsford will retain a fair degree of autonomy over how the team work.

On the negative side, he's a bit of a tax dodging turd and he runs a chemical company. Still, I suppose when you look around the peleton, it's not exactly renowned for having white than white sponsors.

Didnt he sink something like £110 million into Ben Ainslee's Americas Cup bid?


Ok the article never explicitly spells it out in black and white terms but you would have to assume that, considering he has in the past invested £110 million in Ben Ainslee's Americas Cup sailing bid. He likes putting money into his interests and sailing and cycling are two of them.

Ineos will buy out Tour Racing Limited, the holding company owned by BSkyB which holds the team’s licence and so remain in the World Tour. Team Sky will then be renamed Team Ineos from 2020 – with permission from the Professional Cycling Council.

Wiggins described the takeover as a “bonus for everyone at Team Sky”. Speaking on his podcast on Eurosport, Wiggins said: “He [Ratcliffe] is the richest man in Britain and you’d imagine that the kind of money that they’ve asked for is nothing to him – probably get it written off his tax bill.

“I’m aware of this guy but I’ve never met him. He’s got a house in Majorca and he’s really into cycling, rides his bike, so I would imagine this is someone who loves cycling and said, ‘I’m going to put my money in’. Much like Gerry Ryan [at Mitchelton-Scott] and a few of the other Australian millionaires who put their money in.

“So, it’s an ideal situation for Dave [Brailsford] because he can continue running out this team with all his plans and philosophies and he’s answerable, you’d imagine, to one man who puts in the money, and it’ll certainly help that team.”

Wiggins added: “I think that would have impacted on the sponsor they have [gone with] as well. Dave will want to retain control and it’s Dave’s way in terms of the way he manages the team, the way he’s set the team up and I think he would have been reluctant to have another multinational company that came in and wanted it for the advertisement, but would want the control in terms of, ‘This is how we’re going to do it in terms of how we advertise our company’. I think that would have been a big point for Dave which in some ways is an ideal situation.”

Wiggins added that tying up a deal this early in the season was a bonus for everyone at Team Sky, with riders not now facing any contractual uncertainty heading into the summer.
 
I think a few of us said at the time of Sky announcing the end of it's sponsorship, that any general rejoicing by it's opponents may well turn out to be rather premature, and instead may herald the creation of an even better financed team.
 
On the negative side, he's a bit of a tax dodging turd and he runs a chemical company. Still, I suppose when you look around the peleton, it's not exactly renowned for having white than white sponsors.

He, as a person, can hardly be worse than Murdoch. At least now orcas know who their real friends are. Have to say, those Brexiteers are seriously starting to annoy me. They can't Brexit in a decent/timely manner, now one has decided to make it his vanity project to continue that team with a similar budget. It just keeps getting better.

Oh well on the positive side just saw a documentary about Milan-San Remo 1985 and that was good; with Kuiper, Vanderaerden, Adrie van Der Poel, Peeters, Sean Kelly and Bauer.
 

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