Covid Passports and Testing etc

[Terrarian]

No, but it was a very leading statement.
Your point about entrenched views is very valid.
Ive had the jab, wouldn’t force anyone to take it though. That simple for me.

It's gotten too the point where all sides are just shouting and nobody is listening too each other.

 

[4737carlin]

I'm not a David Icke nutter. I work for the NHS and have been advised not to take it til I speak to my specialist. I can not do that til the clinics are open, which they won't be for a while.

I worked with covid patients during the first wave.

Why should I be ostracised from society?
Why do you feel better for doing this to me or people like me?
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm concerned for my health and would like to speak to an expert about the side effects and what vaccine would be best for me, given my individual circumstances.
Why do you feel as though you can tell me what to put in my body despite knowing none of my circumstances?

But you cant go to Goodison anyway, with your medical conditions it would be too dangerous to be in a crowd of people during a global pandemic

 

[4737carlin]

It's gotten too the point where all sides are just shouting and nobody is listening too each other.

NOBODY IS SHOUTING

 

[tim cahill]

But you cant go to Goodison anyway, with your medical conditions it would be too dangerous to be in a crowd of people during a global pandemic

That would be his choice surely?!

 

[Carlito]

It would be good if Everton came out and announced they are going to insist that anyone who enters the stadium has been vaccinated, make it the clubs own decision rather then wait for guidance from either the Government or the FA.

Lead the way on this, as a club who pride themselves on the work the y do within the working class community it's the perfect opportunity to show they understand how difficult the current situation has been for people.

If it annoys a few right wing, conspiracy theory, David Icke nutters then all the better, we dont want them in the ground anyway.

What does it have to do with being working class, or which politics team you support?

 

[This is my name]

But you cant go to Goodison anyway, with your medical conditions it would be too dangerous to be in a crowd of people during a global pandemic

You don't know my condition, you're just assuming you do. I'd be perfectly safe around others, or as safe as a none disabled person, I'm more worried about interactions with the other medications I have to take.

You've answered none of my questions. Even if you don't want to, I'd suggest you think about them. What you're asking of me isn't fair.

Also, I'm safe to work for the NHS, especially on covid wards (in the first pandemic, haven't haven't a while), but not safe to watch footy?

I'm free to work but not to live?

 

[4737carlin]

What does it have to do with being working class, or which politics team you support?

Because the working class are suffering the most with all this, dont forget less well off people often live in cramped conditions and work in jobs also in busier places. A lot of them also camt afford cars and use public transport.
Add to that many might work in jobs like bar work...etc

 

[4737carlin]

You don't know my condition, you're just assuming you do. I'd be perfectly safe around others, or as safe as a none disabled person, I'm more worried about interactions with the other medications I have to take.

I'd be perfectly safe... there you go, as long as you are ok, it's all me me me, that's the problem

 

[Joey66]

Because the working class are suffering the most with all this, dont forget less well off people often live in cramped conditions and work in jobs also in busier places. A lot of them also camt afford cars and use public transport.
Add to that many might work in jobs like bar work...etc

TBH biting wind out there for tonight's game us oldies might give it a miss watching it at home in front of the fire ......

 

[billy bluestar]

I'd be perfectly safe... there you go, as long as you are ok, it's all me me me, that's the problem

What if your a pregnant lady, its not just about yourself then... its not me, me, me...

 

[This is my name]

I'd be perfectly safe... there you go, as long as you are ok, it's all me me me, that's the problem

You're literally saying "do what I say" and saying I'm being selfish.

I'm pointing out you're ignoring my other questions because they're valid points, and you're just calling me selfish.

When I was working on a covid ward, during the first outbreak it wasn't "me,me me" mate. I was helping people and I'm proud of what I done. But you can paint me out to be childish because I won't do what you want.

Grow up.

 

[4737carlin]

You're literally saying "do what I say" and saying I'm being selfish.

I'm pointing out you're ignoring my other questions because they're valid points, and you're just calling me selfish.

When I was working on a covid ward, during the first outbreak it wasn't "me,me me" mate. I was helping people and I'm proud of what I done. But you can paint me out to be childish because I won't do what you want.

Grow up.

Ok the problem is you might be genuine, but the anti vaxx crowd are mostly the same types who have been anti mask and ani lockdown.
You only have to look through this very thread and see comments about government control...etc so those with a real reason for not taking a vaccine are stuck with being seen in the same camp.
I personally think we have another 12 months of this, at least, its unfortunate but some people are just going to have to accept through no fault of there own once passports come in they will miss things, its harsh but the situation is real.
Maybe in 18 months time this will all be over but for now certain sacrifices are going to be made.

 

[4737carlin]

What if your a pregnant lady, its not just about yourself then... its not me, me, me...

So if you are pregnant are you really going to be going in the places a passport is needed? If it was me my baby would be more important then going in a nightclub

 

[This is my name]

Ok the problem is you might be genuine, but the anti vaxx crowd are mostly the same types who have been anti mask and ani lockdown.
You only have to look through this very thread and see comments about government control...etc so those with a real reason for not taking a vaccine are stuck with being seen in the same camp.
I personally think we have another 12 months of this, at least, its unfortunate but some people are just going to have to accept through no fault of there own once passports come in they will miss things, its harsh but the situation is real.
Maybe in 18 months time this will all be over but for now certain sacrifices are going to be made.

I'm glad ya willing to put me in for those sacrifices, and act like I'm selfish for pointing it out, how brave of you.

I am genuine. I served our NHS in its time of need and people like you are willing to throw me under the bus.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

 

[billy bluestar]

So if you are pregnant are you really going to be going in the places a passport is needed? If it was me my baby would be more important then going in a nightclub

I agree, you’d still be discriminating though.