Conceding from set pieces

[billycopper]

West Brom- McAuley header from a corner.
Southampton- Ramirez header from a corner.
Liverpool- Suarez header from a freekick.
Fulham- Howard own goal from Ruiz's freekick.
(Sunderland- Johnson goal in second phase following a corner).
Reading- Fondre header from a freekick & a penalty.

That's 6 out of 16 (not including S'land) or 37.5% of our goals conceded from set pieces.

Of the other goals that we've let in:

El Ahmadi and Ba (twice) went straight down the middle.
Long and Kone beat Jagielka to the ball at the near post after moves down our right.
Di Santo and Hoilett caught us on the counter-attack.
Saurez and Sidwell scored on the far post after the ball came across goal.

So goals from setpieces have been at least twice as common as any other source.

 

[noharmdone]

Chris Woods.. Get Nev back in !!!

 

[Beagers]

We also concede when anyone has any period of pressure on us.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

But what would the stats from say the teams above us be ?

You can't use statistical analysis unless you have more data. Is our result he good, or bad. I dunno to be fair.

 

[tim cahill]

We need more height in the team. We rarely pose any threat from set pieces either. Could be worth giving duffy a chance.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

We need more height in the team. We rarely pose any threat from set pieces either. Could be worth giving duffy a chance.

For 12 corners a game ?

 

[billycopper]

But what would the stats from say the teams above us be ?

You can't use statistical analysis unless you have more data. Is our result he good, or bad. I dunno to be fair.

If I was coaching a team I'd want to know if there was any pattern to how we were conceding goals so that I could do something about it. It doesn't really matter whether our percentage is high, low or normal, as it could always be better. Almost 40% of our goals against are coming from set pieces (only 1 penalty) and it's definitely something that we can work on in training.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

If I was coaching a team I'd want to know if there was any pattern to how we were conceding goals so that I could do something about it. It doesn't really matter whether our percentage is high, low or normal, as it could always be better. Almost 40% of our goals against are coming from set pieces (only 1 penalty) and it's definitely something that we can work on in training.

But is 40 % the best in league or worst, or even how does it compare against other seasons. Is percentage the right measure or absolute numbers ? Dunno mate, not having a dig, but the reasons for giving away set pieces may be more important.

 

[tim cahill]

For 12 corners a game ?

Corners and free kicks are a big part of the game. Sam allardyce has made a career out of getting those bits right.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Corners and free kicks are a big part of the game. Sam allardyce has made a career out of getting those bits right.

Not sure Big Sam adds much to your argument as he has generally managed teams who played industrial football.

 

[tim cahill]

It's not pretty but he can get results with weak sides by making the most of set pieces. It wouldn't do us any harm to improve in that area.

 

[Slavan]

every team should maximise every opportunity.

 

[Brennan]

But is 40 % the best in league or worst, or even how does it compare against other seasons. Is percentage the right measure or absolute numbers ? Dunno mate, not having a dig, but the reasons for giving away set pieces may be more important.

Yeah. I get the feeling that 40% of goals from set pieces isn't really that high.

 

[billycopper]

But is 40 % the best in league or worst, or even how does it compare against other seasons. Is percentage the right measure or absolute numbers ? Dunno mate, not having a dig, but the reasons for giving away set pieces may be more important.

It would take some digging around to find out. Opta say that City have conceded the most with 60% but they've only let in 10....60% of 10 is 6, which is the same number as us.

Since Heitinga has come in for Distin I think we've only conceded one header from a set piece, so I wouldn't put it down to a lack of height. I think we're just not as organised and switched on as we could be.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

It would take some digging around to find out. Opta say that City have conceded the most with 60% but they've only let in 10....60% of 10 is 6, which is the same number as us.

Since Heitinga has come in for Distin I think we've only conceded one header from a set piece, so I wouldn't put it down to a lack of height. I think we're just not as organised and switched on as we could be.

True. You don't necessarily need to win the ball in the air to prevent this type of goal. just pressuring the attacker enough so he can't get a clean contact. From what I remember, all the headed goals we've conceded have been free headers.

I may have made that last bit up to fit in with the gist of my post.