Computer games.

[Tubey]

I think it is a jump from knowing your wifi password to being arsed about mods, textures, shading, and all the graphics stuff PC lads love to go on about.

I think another factor is the price difference. The time between the PS3 and the PS4 releases was 7 years, you'd have to pay a fair whack for a gaming PC to last that long while being able to play the latest titles in 6 years time.

Besides price then I suppose it comes down to what's valued in the individual's gaming experience be that co-op play, graphics, access to new titles ASAP, available title.

Me personally, I'm impressed by good graphics but they don't necessarily make a good game. I liked being able to play GTAV when it first came out because I was very excited for it, I know the PC version looks much better right now but I didn't give a toss about that in 2013.

My laptop at the moment can just about handle early next gen titles so I've been picking up the ones I was too tight to buy at full price on the Steam sales. I'll buy a better PC soon because the missus enjoys games more than I do.

Speaking of the missus, there's another positive it was a lot easier to get her into gaming on one. She used to play when she was younger but hadn't played in ages so we started playing the lego games and little big planet together and now she batters Skyrim, The Witcher, and Fallout. She's more hardcore than I am, I mostly just play a bit of FIFA and FM and whatever open-world game takes my interest these days.

The "PC gamers only do it for the graphics" thing is a massive myth - I've put more hours into Binding of Isaac and Rimworld on my PC than Witcher 3, for example. I've barely touched mods beyond Steam Workshop, which is akin to buying DLC on the PS Store, but free.

The price difference is honestly overblown. I've saved the cost of many PCs over the years simply due to actual PC games being massively cheaper than console titles. Often a quarter of the price. Prison Architect is £19.99 on PS4 right now; I got it for £4 on PC. Shadow of Mordor is still £50 on PS4; it's £5.34 with five other games on Humble Bundle for Steam. That's all before £7 a month for PS Plus.

I just think the argument for consoles boils down to "that's what me and my mates are used to" rather than an actual compelling argument for them. Which is fine - each to their own.

 

[DualityNSNO]

That'll be our kid you're playing with then.

Probably. No one is safe.

You on xbox bud?

Edit; just realised overwatch is on pc too so I imagine pc.

Nah PC master race lol

The "PC gamers only do it for the graphics" thing is a massive myth - I've put more hours into Binding of Isaac and Rimworld on my PC than Witcher 3, for example. I've barely touched mods beyond Steam Workshop, which is akin to buying DLC on the PS Store, but free.

The price difference is honestly overblown. I've saved the cost of many PCs over the years simply due to actual PC games being massively cheaper than console titles. Often a quarter of the price. Prison Architect is £19.99 on PS4 right now; I got it for £4 on PC. Shadow of Mordor is still £50 on PS4; it's £5.34 with five other games on Humble Bundle for Steam. That's all before £7 a month for PS Plus.

I just think the argument for consoles boils down to "that's what me and my mates are used to" rather than an actual compelling argument for them. Which is fine - each to their own.

This really, plus regarding the "build it yourself" - just about any website that has PC's has pre-built ones, which may not be fantastic, but are the same as a console when it comes to plug and play.

 

[neil999]

The "PC gamers only do it for the graphics" thing is a massive myth - I've put more hours into Binding of Isaac and Rimworld on my PC than Witcher 3, for example. I've barely touched mods beyond Steam Workshop, which is akin to buying DLC on the PS Store, but free.

The price difference is honestly overblown. I've saved the cost of many PCs over the years simply due to actual PC games being massively cheaper than console titles. Often a quarter of the price. Prison Architect is £19.99 on PS4 right now; I got it for £4 on PC. Shadow of Mordor is still £50 on PS4; it's £5.34 with five other games on Humble Bundle for Steam. That's all before £7 a month for PS Plus.

I just think the argument for consoles boils down to "that's what me and my mates are used to" rather than an actual compelling argument for them. Which is fine - each to their own.

i think the cost issue is people looking at purpose built gaming PC's which cost a fortune(alienware and the like) when you can do it much cheaper yourself..

 

[DualityNSNO]

i think the cost issue is people looking at purpose built gaming PC's which cost a fortune(alienware and the like) when you can do it much cheaper yourself..

Or by buying a pre-built that's not alienware, as there the brand costs more than the machine itself.

Also you can "pre-build" your own PC anyway, and you don't exactly need to be the most knowledgeable person to do that.

 

[Efcjake]

i think the cost issue is people looking at purpose built gaming PC's which cost a fortune(alienware and the like) when you can do it much cheaper yourself..

But will it be able to play games released in 6 years time like consoles do?

 

[Tubey]

But will it be able to play games released in 6 years time like consoles do?

An average gaming PC now will last you around four to five years I reckon. You'd be able to play todays releases on Ultra/High settings, and five years down the line play new games on low at the very least, which is about on par with todays consoles anyway.

Witcher 3 runs fine on high on a GTX970, which is three years old, and the minimum spec is a GTX660, which is five years old.

Added to that that you can simply replace the graphics card more often than not to extend life - a GTX1060 thrown into a four year old PC now would run most things on high for £200 extra.

 

[neil999]

But will it be able to play games released in 6 years time like consoles do?

i dunno

 

[Efcjake]

An average gaming PC now will last you around four to five years I reckon. You'd be able to play todays releases on Ultra/High settings, and five years down the line play new games on low at the very least, which is about on par with todays consoles anyway.

Witcher 3 runs fine on high on a GTX970, which is three years old, and the minimum spec is a GTX660, which is five years old.

Added to that that you can simply replace the graphics card more often than not to extend life - a GTX1060 thrown into a four year old PC now would run most things on high for £200 extra.

What would you pay for what you consider an average gaming PC to last 5 years that can play Ultra/high settings on current games?



How does that compare to the price of a console? The ability to upgrade is nice, but also represents further costs.

 

[Efcjake]

The "PC gamers only do it for the graphics" thing is a massive myth - I've put more hours into Binding of Isaac and Rimworld on my PC than Witcher 3, for example. I've barely touched mods beyond Steam Workshop, which is akin to buying DLC on the PS Store, but free.

The price difference is honestly overblown. I've saved the cost of many PCs over the years simply due to actual PC games being massively cheaper than console titles. Often a quarter of the price. Prison Architect is £19.99 on PS4 right now; I got it for £4 on PC. Shadow of Mordor is still £50 on PS4; it's £5.34 with five other games on Humble Bundle for Steam. That's all before £7 a month for PS Plus.

I just think the argument for consoles boils down to "that's what me and my mates are used to" rather than an actual compelling argument for them. Which is fine - each to their own.

But take away the graphics and what's the selling point for PC?

Steam sales? PS4 does OK sales in the summer and winter and you can still pick up used games.

 

[Connor]

 

[ijjysmith]

 

[Connor]

I am VERY excited.

 

[ijjysmith]

I am VERY excited.

Just some in game footage and actual release date will be lovely please.

 

[longers]

Played about four hours of FIFA 18 now and not rating it. The crossing is abysmal and woeful compared to PES, the passing as well. They have massively dumbed down the defensive AI now and it’s way easier to score than last year hence why every online match has at least 6 goals minimum. The best players are all insanely overpowered... every online match is just cheesers abusing Messi, Ronaldo etc. Oh and they’ve also sped up the gameplay so the default speed is stupidly fast, setting it to slow basically makes it like FIFA 17 on default speed which was still too fast...

May be the first time in a decade I switch back to PES. Someone needs to come along and make a proper footy sim... I’d say footy games are the least realistic representation of a sport in gaming. NBA 2k, Madden etc all play out far more realistically than FIFA/PES

 

[Dylan]

But take away the graphics and what's the selling point for PC?

Steam sales? PS4 does OK sales in the summer and winter and you can still pick up used games.

There is sooooo much more out there than just Steam.

Constant Humble Bundles which give you tons of little gems for little money.

Also, on a FPS game, keyboard and mouse are such a superior control method than a gamepad.