Churchill: Pantomime Villain or Cartoon Superhero?

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He also identified the "iron curtain" and the Soviet grab of eastern europe, and the Marshall plan and subsequent formation of Nato would have meant that Champagne Socialists like yourself would have embraced Stalinist tendencies even more than you have.

it was Churchill who tried to convince the americans your sort in England weren't communists...


Although in your particular case - I'm not so sure!

Churchill was a bit part player at Yalta. He had no hand to play. Britain was a busted flush. Roosevelt and Stalin used to send him out to make the tea while they talked turkey.

Anyway, he wasn't even English. He was American on his mothers side. He's far from being the greatest Englishman, as many claim he is.
 

He also identified the "iron curtain" and the Soviet grab of eastern europe, and the Marshall plan and subsequent formation of Nato would have meant that Champagne Socialists like yourself would have embraced Stalinist tendencies even more than you have.

it was Churchill who tried to convince the americans your sort in England weren't communists...


Although in your particular case - I'm not so sure!

Now, now. I've just pulled someone up on using apologist...
 
Good post Dixie. He was a drunk who only made one right call in his whiskey-sodden existence: he opposed appeasement (not particularly because he was anti-Nazi, he just wanted the British Empire in tact). That's it really. As for the war, Churchill may have made the stirring speeches and become an icon, but it was the likes of Ernest Bevan who ran the economy in the wartime cabinet that kept things chugging along.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Eagerly awaiting Davek's response and he surely didn't disappoint.
 

Terrible peacetime politician, good wartime leader at least that's what I reckon.
He was great as a figure head and for rhetoric during the Second World War but a lot of what he did just built upon the systems put in place by Lloyd George (who could be viewed in much the same way as Churchill). That said I'm not sure any of the other politicians around at the time could have been as successful and he was good at letting capable men run the home front. He definately shouldn't have come back for a second term though.
 
He was the right man to lead our country at that time - and yes our country needed him. He had many faults, and that was shown to be come the post war general election defeat.

Thanks for the memories churchy baby
 
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