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I swear to fcuk he was arguing the precise opposite POV the week before last.

He's a superb fisherman. Just puts the line out there and the fish are all over it.

The thing is, here post match defeat here is like filling Mill Farm with a million fish then holding a [Poor language removed] Sky tournament there.

Lines, baits, bites, mallets over the head.

It's my favourite times on this GOT thing.
 

The thing is, here post match defeat here is like filling Mill Farm with a million fish then holding a [Poor language removed] Sky tournament there.

Lines, baits, bites, mallets over the head.

It's my favourite times on this GOT thing.

It's mad.

The expectation level in August was unreal. We'll get to 8th again, which is what most will accept. I cant see the point of wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
For that matter, is it too late, am I already sucked in too far? I fear I am, but the questions remain, and all legitimately valid imo.

You are. Strap yourself in - it's going to be a bumpy ride but there's no getting out of it. There will be times, like today, when you will wish you really didn't care. But there will also be times when you will want to walk up to everyone and declare "I support Everton FC, me" and your chest will swell with pride as you look away into the distance and smile to yourself. There is no way out. Don't attempt to fight it. You already hate the [Poor language removed] and Man U and Citeh and only twats support London clubs. Just accept it. Try to enjoy it as much as you can but moan like **** as well. And always always mutter "[Poor language removed]" under your breathe when you see someone in a RS shirt.

Good luck with all that.
 
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I swear to fcuk he was arguing the precise opposite POV the week before last.

He's a superb fisherman. Just puts the line out there and the fish are all over it.

I was because Moyes was getting them playing some good footy and his tactics were spot on. But today they were appalling, and yet he points the blamely solely at the players. He'll take the LMA awards though won't he?

So would you rather be in their position than ours? Thought not.

Can people stop asking me questions, and then answering them before I get a chance to reply. Thanks.

It's mad.

The expectation level in August was unreal. We'll get to 8th again, which is what most will accept. I cant see the point of wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Because we had the potential to do well, and not just finish 8th. Look at these results and tell me it's not making a pigs ear of the whole season.

Blackburn (A) 0 points
Wolves (H) 1 point
Villa (A) 0 points
Man U (H) 1 point
Newcastle (H) 0 points

next 5 games

Fulham (A) - where we never win
Birmingham (A) - battling side make it difficult at St Andrews
Liverpool (H) - where we win 1 in 4 times I reckon
Spurs (A) - Bogey team, especially now when they are flying.
Stoke (H) - Watch out for Delap.

It's bleak as.
 

As one such brand new Americano fan and a relative outsider, let me give my perspective.

First of all, the new fans worth their salt won't be running for the hills after 4 bad weeks. Please. Perhaps we'll lose a few who came for Landon and haven't followed since, but the real fans, the ones who are here for Everton not any single player, they'll stay. Once a team is "yours" it remains so forever. In the face of adversity, some will deal by lamenting their fate, some will deal by distancing themselves from an already distant league, and some will choose a "best of the rest" second favorite team and draw some pathetic echo of joy from their victories instead. But none will lose their love of Everton; we aren't so flighty as all that.

Secondly, some random disconnected thoughts about happiness and sports.

There are multiple kinds of happiness, as well all know. General contentment, pride in an accomplishment, a fun time with friends, etc etc. Sports happiness is a very specific kind, and it does not come in a simple one-to-one ratio with victories. Otherwise we'd all be fans of the same team, which would never lose. No, in sports we define happiness as something more - epicness might be the better word; passion is also closely related.

So yes, there is a certain joy to be drawn from gloryhunting. But that is not what we were seeking, originally, when we each became fans of this team, this sport. We sought that certain brand of happiness that comes not in spite of, but because of the obstacles - the kind that demands sacrifice before it will show itself.

It is easy to declare your allegiance for a team you care nothing about - any team, any sport - and derive some peripheral pride or temporary joy from a victory you didn't even watch. What is hard is to love a team, and to stick with that team through terrible times on the promise of a reward which may never come, but which, if achieved, would be worth all your effort by a factor of a million. This is what sports fandom is about; the constant barrage of stress and disappointment in return for those rare shining moments. When, if ever, Everton wins something big or my Sharks lift the Cup, everything will be instantly worth it.

I have two friends who are Chelsea fans. One is a gloryhunter who chose the team last year. The other is a lifelong fan born into it because of family ties. The former watches only highlights and tells me constantly how "awesome" Chelsea is doing. The latter is simply basking in what he calls the "glory days." I'm jealous of the second one, having never experience glory days for any of my teams. But the first one, not at all. I'll take Everton love and failure over vague Chelsea interest and success any day of the week.

My point is this: Don't start talking about cutting your losses and avoiding this misery. We watch sports for the indescribable feeling of an epic moment, but we also watch for this feeling: the frustration, the disappointment. It's about passion, one way or another.

So am I annoyed that I've been getting up early on Saturday mornings and losing precious sleep to watch crappy soccer? Yes
Am I regretting that Everton chose me and contemplating a swap to the other Blues? Hell no.

Besides people, geez, it's only been 5 games, one of which was actually pretty cool. Chill out!

(Please forgive this verbiose rant; I was kind of in a mood...)
 
As one such brand new Americano fan and a relative outsider, let me give my perspective.

First of all, the new fans worth their salt won't be running for the hills after 4 bad weeks. Please. Perhaps we'll lose a few who came for Landon and haven't followed since, but the real fans, the ones who are here for Everton not any single player, they'll stay. Once a team is "yours" it remains so forever. In the face of adversity, some will deal by lamenting their fate, some will deal by distancing themselves from an already distant league, and some will choose a "best of the rest" second favorite team and draw some pathetic echo of joy from their victories instead. But none will lose their love of Everton; we aren't so flighty as all that.

Secondly, some random disconnected thoughts about happiness and sports.

There are multiple kinds of happiness, as well all know. General contentment, pride in an accomplishment, a fun time with friends, etc etc. Sports happiness is a very specific kind, and it does not come in a simple one-to-one ratio with victories. Otherwise we'd all be fans of the same team, which would never lose. No, in sports we define happiness as something more - epicness might be the better word; passion is also closely related.

So yes, there is a certain joy to be drawn from gloryhunting. But that is not what we were seeking, originally, when we each became fans of this team, this sport. We sought that certain brand of happiness that comes not in spite of, but because of the obstacles - the kind that demands sacrifice before it will show itself.

It is easy to declare your allegiance for a team you care nothing about - any team, any sport - and derive some peripheral pride or temporary joy from a victory you didn't even watch. What is hard is to love a team, and to stick with that team through terrible times on the promise of a reward which may never come, but which, if achieved, would be worth all your effort by a factor of a million. This is what sports fandom is about; the constant barrage of stress and disappointment in return for those rare shining moments. When, if ever, Everton wins something big or my Sharks lift the Cup, everything will be instantly worth it.

I have two friends who are Chelsea fans. One is a gloryhunter who chose the team last year. The other is a lifelong fan born into it because of family ties. The former watches only highlights and tells me constantly how "awesome" Chelsea is doing. The latter is simply basking in what he calls the "glory days." I'm jealous of the second one, having never experience glory days for any of my teams. But the first one, not at all. I'll take Everton love and failure over vague Chelsea interest and success any day of the week.

My point is this: Don't start talking about cutting your losses and avoiding this misery. We watch sports for the indescribable feeling of an epic moment, but we also watch for this feeling: the frustration, the disappointment. It's about passion, one way or another.

So am I annoyed that I've been getting up early on Saturday mornings and losing precious sleep to watch crappy soccer? Yes
Am I regretting that Everton chose me and contemplating a swap to the other Blues? Hell no.

Besides people, geez, it's only been 5 games, one of which was actually pretty cool. Chill out!

(Please forgive this verbiose rant; I was kind of in a mood...)

Superb stuff this mate. Everton is for life and beyond.
 

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Really mate, I do understand your frustration, but I also recognise knee jerk reactions. Would you really choose anything else given the option? I for one certainly wouldn't and I'm covinced the same applies for you.

I'd go and support Barca now if the missus would allow us to emigrate. That is the truth, I would turn my back to go and watch Barcelona. It's [Poor language removed] being an Everton fan. Everyone knows it. We just have no choice in the matter.
 
I'd go and support Barca now if the missus would allow us to emigrate. That is the truth, I would turn my back to go and watch Barcelona. It's [Poor language removed] being an Everton fan. Everyone knows it. We just have no choice in the matter.

Well, maybe you'd really emigrate and watch Barcelona, but the heart would still be at Everton. I'm sure that watching Barca would be great, but could they really replace Everton in your heart? Somehow, I don't believe that for a sec.
 
Well, maybe you'd really emigrate and watch Barcelona, but the heart would still be at Everton. I'm sure that watching Barca would be great, but could they really replace Everton in your heart? Somehow, I don't believe that for a sec.

Don't overestimate the power of what is really important in life. I'm not one of these meffs who ditch their wife to watch footy.
 

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