2017/18 Cenk Tosun

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havrey0123 said:
Not good enough to get 20 goals a season which is what is needed
The same people on here who say he is good are the same people who said the likes of jelavic and Beckford should be given a chance when it was clear as day they weren't good enough.
And don't even get me started on straqualrsi, who people rated on sheer workrate alone and wanted to keep him because he offers "something extra", the guy wasn't even league 1 standard.

Need to take full advantage of the loan market rashford or batsuayi are there for the taking.
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Batman has 7 goals in 32 premier league games, so he wont get us 20 goals a season either.
 

The fickleness of footy fans is the one thing I really love. Tosun gets sent off for having a pop at fans who were giving grief to his dad, and it's labelled showing 'passion' cue RS player doing the exact same thing, and it would be "what a nobhead" "Should get a lengthy ban for that" "Typical RS behaviour" etc, gotta luv it.
 

havrey0123 said:
Not good enough to get 20 goals a season which is what is needed
The same people on here who say he is good are the same people who said the likes of jelavic and Beckford should be given a chance when it was clear as day they weren't good enough.
And don't even get me started on straqualrsi, who people rated on sheer workrate alone and wanted to keep him because he offers "something extra", the guy wasn't even league 1 standard.

Need to take full advantage of the loan market rashford or batsuayi are there for the taking.
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Give him him enough opportunities and he’ll get 20+ goals. He’s a good finisher, he’s proven that.
 
Ref had no choice but to Red Card him but it is really great to have another striker that can not only score lots of goals but is aggressive and passionate too. It tends to be a common trait among high goal scoring strikers and lets be honest, who wouldn't react angrily if they thought that their family was being abused or threatened by people or fans. I know i would. Doing the cut throat gesture doesn't mean that you want to actually cut someone's throat, it is just one of the few ways of letting people who think they are far away and untouchable know that you are there to protect your family and wont stand for it.
 
havrey0123 said:
Not good enough to get 20 goals a season which is what is needed
The same people on here who say he is good are the same people who said the likes of jelavic and Beckford should be given a chance when it was clear as day they weren't good enough.
And don't even get me started on straqualrsi, who people rated on sheer workrate alone and wanted to keep him because he offers "something extra", the guy wasn't even league 1 standard.

Need to take full advantage of the loan market rashford or batsuayi are there for the taking.
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This is mental. Tosun has scored 5 goals in 14 appearances for us having joined in January in a new league, a new country and a god awful team - his first game we got murdered 4-0 by Tottenham. He has played well and scored in champions league games for Besiktas against much better teams.

Batshuayi had a purple patch in a fantastic attacking Dortmund team. In England he scored 7 goals in 32 appearances for Chelsea.

Rashford has scored 17 in 78 for Man U. Yes he’s had a lot of sub appearances, but that’s just like Cenk. And he’s played under Mourinho, a negative defensive manager, just like Cenk did under allardyce.

How are these two that much better than Cenk? And how much would Rashford in particular coat to buy? £40m? £50m?

Give Cenk a season with a progressive manager and I see no reason why he can’t get 20 goal. He works hard, he’s passionate and he can score all types of goals.
 

Jt5688 said:
This is mental. Tosun has scored 5 goals in 14 appearances for us having joined in January in a new league, a new country and a god awful team - his first game we got murdered 4-0 by Tottenham. He has played well and scored in champions league games for Besiktas against much better teams.

Batshuayi had a purple patch in a fantastic attacking Dortmund team. In England he scored 7 goals in 32 appearances for Chelsea.

Rashford has scored 17 in 78 for Man U. Yes he’s had a lot of sub appearances, but that’s just like Cenk. And he’s played under Mourinho, a negative defensive manager, just like Cenk did under allardyce.

How are these two that much better than Cenk? And how much would Rashford in particular coat to buy? £40m? £50m?

Give Cenk a season with a progressive manager and I see no reason why he can’t get 20 goal. He works hard, he’s passionate and he can score all types of goals.
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Lacks pace which is a problem with an already slow midfield. Playing on the counter attack is pretty useless with him up upfront. So is playing through balls for him to run onto.
Having pace upfront gives you a massive advantage surely after this seasons premier league you can see that.
 
MoutsGoat said:
We dont play in the Bundesliga mate.

Tosun got 20 in the Turkish league like, if we are counting other leagues?

Batman is a decent player, but to suggest he could get 20 goals while Tosun couldnt is wrong IMO, both are capable.
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Nobody's getting 20 goals for us last season the way we set up under Allardyce. Think the team just about managed 20 goals in total under him.
 
havrey0123 said:
Lacks pace which is a problem with an already slow midfield. Playing on the counter attack is pretty useless with him up upfront. So is playing through balls for him to run onto.
Having pace upfront gives you a massive advantage surely after this seasons premier league you can see that.
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Having someone who gets it on target 50% of the time and scores at a rate of one in two also helps. Pace can be important, but if he has players around him to do that, (Walcott and lookman) then he can score the goals just by his awareness and positional sense. He isn’t a slouch either, despite what a lot of people seem to think.

He has a cracking shot, and managed to score 5 goals in one of the least creative teams in the league, in only 12 starts.

Give him a chance.
 
Jt5688 said:
This is mental. Tosun has scored 5 goals in 14 appearances for us having joined in January in a new league, a new country and a god awful team - his first game we got murdered 4-0 by Tottenham. He has played well and scored in champions league games for Besiktas against much better teams.

Batshuayi had a purple patch in a fantastic attacking Dortmund team. In England he scored 7 goals in 32 appearances for Chelsea.

Rashford has scored 17 in 78 for Man U. Yes he’s had a lot of sub appearances, but that’s just like Cenk. And he’s played under Mourinho, a negative defensive manager, just like Cenk did under allardyce.

How are these two that much better than Cenk? And how much would Rashford in particular coat to buy? £40m? £50m?

Give Cenk a season with a progressive manager and I see no reason why he can’t get 20 goal. He works hard, he’s passionate and he can score all types of goals.
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Give him a supply line and he`ll score goals, it really is as simple as that.
 

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