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technojoe
Player Valuation: £10m
Totally! the current one we give him is barley intelligible toddler grade shouting.
Philw
Player Valuation: £50m
stellardragon
Player Valuation: Free Transfer
Hello. Another Turk here, who lived in UK(Staines-upon-Thames to be precise) for 3 wonderfully good years.
Cenk Tosun was not always what he has been in this past year so far. To begin, his performances always depended on the quality of the manager. He is like a play dough, which, a good manager can form into an elegant shape. He was "somewhat" good at Gaziantepspor before coming to Besiktas, though a majority of the goals he scored back then smelled pure instinct, rather than choices of intelligent direction; yet he scored a lot. I remember "sensing" that flaw in him, that he was "shotgunning" a bit more often.
His first year in Besiktas weren't that bright either. Slaven Bilic, was not the greatest of tactical minds; despite having a wide strategic perspective. His youth was his advantage, and what he lacked was a guide: an example to follow. Both in tactic and in an "idol". To his luck, and that is an amazing luck, he found both of these in Senol Gunes and Mario Gomez.
To those who don't know him well, let me summarize the greatest Turkish manager of all times: Senol Gunes. (No, it's absolutely not Fatih Terim)
Senol Gunes was the goalkeeper of Trabzonspor back in 70's and 80's, though since professional football wasn't much of a thing back then, he got his bachelor's on education, "teacher" to be precise. Hence he has got what we call "formation training". In short summary, he is a master of interpersonal relations and an unbelievably good rehabilitator. He has done some miracles in Turkey with bringing back psychologically "decayed", wasted players into spotlight and even making total stars out of them, outshining many stars of their times: ex-Liverpool striker Ryan Babel and Turkish National Burak Yilmaz are two of them(That guy was total rubbish, changed a club every season with scoring about 2-3 goals at most per season). But Senol Gunes is also a master sculpter, he knows very well how to craft, sculpt and polish a new player: Bursaspor and national goalkeeper Harun Tekin is one of them alongside many... including Cenk Tosun.
Now coming to Cenk. Senol Gunes sculpted him very well, and he took a perfect training from Mario Gomez about in-game striking practices. These two came in the same season, adding up to him quite a lot.
Cenk has 2 dependencies to perform flawlessly, which, when granted, he is more than capable of: A good manager; and a good "playmate". Not a "feeder" or "supporter", but a playmate where he could play one-pass quite often. Ryan Babel was actually half of Cenk Tosun's success in Champion's League so far this season; he only stayed in the shadow for Cenk's outshiningly aesthetic goals. But I must also stress that, long has passed since his "instinctive" shotgun-ish kicks at Gaziantepspor and he indeed uses his intelligence on the pitch now.
I wrote all this up to let you guys get an idea to what really expect. I am quite confident in saying that Cenk is pretty much able to serve all the expectations well, although only under the right conditions. And I'm happy to say that, given Sam Allardyce's days are numbered, Cenk has a colossal chance with having both Rooney and Walcott on his side to act as "playmates". I am only worried if Walcott's ego might hinder in this path. If not, he has all the potentials you seek. But a more intelligent manager is in demand here.
Cenk Tosun was not always what he has been in this past year so far. To begin, his performances always depended on the quality of the manager. He is like a play dough, which, a good manager can form into an elegant shape. He was "somewhat" good at Gaziantepspor before coming to Besiktas, though a majority of the goals he scored back then smelled pure instinct, rather than choices of intelligent direction; yet he scored a lot. I remember "sensing" that flaw in him, that he was "shotgunning" a bit more often.
His first year in Besiktas weren't that bright either. Slaven Bilic, was not the greatest of tactical minds; despite having a wide strategic perspective. His youth was his advantage, and what he lacked was a guide: an example to follow. Both in tactic and in an "idol". To his luck, and that is an amazing luck, he found both of these in Senol Gunes and Mario Gomez.
To those who don't know him well, let me summarize the greatest Turkish manager of all times: Senol Gunes. (No, it's absolutely not Fatih Terim)
Senol Gunes was the goalkeeper of Trabzonspor back in 70's and 80's, though since professional football wasn't much of a thing back then, he got his bachelor's on education, "teacher" to be precise. Hence he has got what we call "formation training". In short summary, he is a master of interpersonal relations and an unbelievably good rehabilitator. He has done some miracles in Turkey with bringing back psychologically "decayed", wasted players into spotlight and even making total stars out of them, outshining many stars of their times: ex-Liverpool striker Ryan Babel and Turkish National Burak Yilmaz are two of them(That guy was total rubbish, changed a club every season with scoring about 2-3 goals at most per season). But Senol Gunes is also a master sculpter, he knows very well how to craft, sculpt and polish a new player: Bursaspor and national goalkeeper Harun Tekin is one of them alongside many... including Cenk Tosun.
Now coming to Cenk. Senol Gunes sculpted him very well, and he took a perfect training from Mario Gomez about in-game striking practices. These two came in the same season, adding up to him quite a lot.
Cenk has 2 dependencies to perform flawlessly, which, when granted, he is more than capable of: A good manager; and a good "playmate". Not a "feeder" or "supporter", but a playmate where he could play one-pass quite often. Ryan Babel was actually half of Cenk Tosun's success in Champion's League so far this season; he only stayed in the shadow for Cenk's outshiningly aesthetic goals. But I must also stress that, long has passed since his "instinctive" shotgun-ish kicks at Gaziantepspor and he indeed uses his intelligence on the pitch now.
I wrote all this up to let you guys get an idea to what really expect. I am quite confident in saying that Cenk is pretty much able to serve all the expectations well, although only under the right conditions. And I'm happy to say that, given Sam Allardyce's days are numbered, Cenk has a colossal chance with having both Rooney and Walcott on his side to act as "playmates". I am only worried if Walcott's ego might hinder in this path. If not, he has all the potentials you seek. But a more intelligent manager is in demand here.
catcherintherye
Player Valuation: £80m
The Jelavic one is odd, and in truth he remains the best finisher I've seen at the club for those 6 months when he first came. The issue with Jelavic was that we didn't play a side that suited having a proper number 9. In all honesty very few sides in England do, the league is too fast and powerful and is not about creating lots of decent chances.
Lukaku was a great goalscorer too, but is more of an around player, while his finishing is good he doesn't get as many dirty goals as Jelavic did or Tosun looks capable of.
Our challenge is to find a coach who will build a team to make Tosun chances. Walcott and Bolasie (if he can recapture his form) is a very good start as both have good delivery. Someone like Shaw would be a good signing too. He is a natural finisher and if we can give him the bullets I think he could get 20 for us.
I get the Jelavic/Suarez point and it gets thrown back at us. However when the comparison was made, Jelavic was scoring freely and Suarez was struggling to adapt. Their fortunes went opposite ways, though I doubt people would have been as brave at the time to predict that. if they were, they should probably be working in football.
Jelavic had a purple patch but he was and is pretty average at best. Think Tosun looks fine so far, difficult to say in this current team but his lack of speed may be a concern but looks like a natural slotter if we can get him the chances. Yes Garth Crooks is stealing a living, many of them on TV tbf.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Jelavic would have kept scoring had we continued to play that way. Cahill was a far better partner for him in the second half that season. We also had Pienaar and Osman on the flanks meaning lots of cut backs etc. The season after Moyes moved Fellaini behind the striker and Mirallas and/or Naismith were out wide. We stopped playing the same way and instead Jelavic ended up running out wide to drag defenders away from the crosses coming in for Fellaini. Naismith’s goal in the home derby was a prime example, he literally took the tap in off Jelavic. We went from having a team creating everything for him and Cahill making runs for him, to a team with 3 or 4 points of attack and a very congested penalty area.
We should have kept him longer than we did because he was a better striking option than Kone when Lukaku was injured.
We should have kept him longer than we did because he was a better striking option than Kone when Lukaku was injured.
I don't think so personally. I liked Jelavic but his record after leaving us shows he played 55 PL games and scored 13 times, so pretty much in keeping with what he did for us after that first season.
Jelavic's problem was that he was effectively just a finisher, so he was totally reliant on good service. Teams worked that out and worked harder at stopping the supply, knowing that he very rarely (never?) actually created a goal for himself through pace, skill, physicality etc. So far Tosun has reminded me a little bit of Jelavic, but hopefully he'll have a little more to his game which will help him avoid having the same problems once teams work out what he's good at.
Zezti
Player Valuation: £70m
Long analysis on him on the official site:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/03/19/tosun-analysis
by Paul McNamara
19 March 2018 14:30
Ask a top-class striker what goes through their head as they move in for the kill and you will likely be met with a blank look.
The same emotionless expression, in fact, painted on their features when they consider the whites of the goal and prepare to take aim.
There are the moments centre-forwards live for, when the most ruthless marksmen retreat into a mental space occupied by little other than an inner peace, at odds with the damage they are poised to inflict.
Witness Cenk Tosun’s cold-eyed cool at the clutch moments.
“It looks like he has got that knack,” said Sam Allardyce. “He seems to be born with that instinct of where to be.”
Tosun knows what to do when he gets there, too. His raw scoring statistics are impressive enough. But scratch beneath the surface and you are confronted with figures which talk of a man whose predatory flair is innate.
Everton’s January signing from Besiktas has scored four times in his past three matches. All three of his attempts against Stoke City on Saturday were directed on target, with the 26-year-old’s strike-rate of 66.67 per cent in the Potteries bettered by only one player in the Premier League across the weekend.
Tosun’s clinical nature and inherent belief in his own ability enable him to employ a degree of patience on the pitch. He does not go chasing chances where they do not exist, nor does he snatch at openings when they arrive.
Seven of his eight shots in the matches with Burnley, Brighton & Hove Albion and Stoke made the opposing goalkeeper work, at the very least.
Amid the flying bodies and muddled minds of a Premier League penalty area, Tosun retains his head, while opponents around him lose theirs. To extend the Kipling analogy, he trusts in himself where others have doubts.
He used these qualities to telling effect at Stoke’s bet365 Stadium, assuredly climbing to his feet after seeing a header saved, then detachedly observing the intervening scramble, before swooping in to wrap his left foot around the ball and lash it into the net to open the scoring.
Tosun had used his right foot to net against Brighton the previous week. He sandwiched these two strikes with smart headed finishes – at Burnley and then, decisively, for his second goal at Stoke.
“He’s always had the finishing in his locker,” said Everton manager Allardyce.
“His hold-up play has got better. He’s got the whole array of finishing in his locker – heading, left foot, right foot, tap-ins, follow-ups – he’s got this knack of being in the right place at the right time and he was certainly that with the quality of his second finish at Stoke.”
Tosun thrives on balls into the box. Accordingly, Everton’s wide players are instructed by Allardyce to provide a regular, blue-chip service for their Turkish striker.
Theo Walcott’s perfectly-flighted delivery to set up Tosun at the weekend was one of 13 crosses sent in from open play by the quartet of Walcott, Yannick Bolasie, and raiding full-backs Seamus Coleman and Leighton Baines.
Tosun does his bit in this respect, too. He picked out Walcott in front of goal with a wonderful right-wing ball of his own, moments before the two traded roles for Everton’s winning goal.
Wayne Rooney, meanwhile, was the nexus of much of his side’s attacking endeavours. The midfielder is renowned for his execution of pass. But his decision-making is equally impeccable.
Operating in a marginally more advanced position than the one in which he excelled seven days previously against Brighton, Rooney cleverly mixed up his approach. He sprang Walcott more than once in the first half, as Everton sought to expose Stoke left-back Kostas Stafylidis to the pace and directness of the Toffees England international winger.
Rooney used his dead-ball prowess to land an early free-kick on the head of an unmarked Tom Davies – and provided five passes in all which led directly to shooting opportunities.
Of his 60 passes, 32 were played in Stoke’s half of the field and 50 – 83.3 per cent – found their intended mark.
Wayne Rooney's heat map against Stoke.
Everton put a total of 26 cross into the hosts’ box, so giving goalkeeper Jack Butland and his serially stretched back four a problem to manage every 3.46 minutes on average.
The Toffees’ defence were subject to an assault of the less subtle variety. Stoke, reduced to 10 men on the half-hour following Charlie Adam’s dismissal for a lunge at Rooney – shortly after Rooney had backtracked to derail a home raid on the fringe of his own penalty area – sought to use Peter Crouch’s height as a means of getting up the pitch.
Phil Jagielka and Michael Keane, quite literally, rose to the challenge. Jagielka completed four headed clearances – only Crystal Palace’s James Tomkins and Steve Cook of Bournemouth recorded more in Saturday’s top-flight matches.
Jagielka made a total of seven clearances, two more than Potters right-back Glen Johnson, the player who was second highest in this particular category in the course the match.
Everton’s two centre-halves jointly epitomised the way in which their team went about grabbing this game by the scruff of the neck.
Keane’s second-half run and shot caught most of the 30,000-odd people in the ground by surprise – not least home number one Butland, who frantically improvised to shovel the ball around the post.
Captain Jagielka and former Manchester United defender Keane adopted higher starting positions following Adam’s dismissal, the pair on the front foot, wresting back possession on halfway and punching passes deep into opposing territory.
The two centre-halves hit a combined 22 accurate passes in Everton’s forward half. Indeed, Jagielka and Keane’s overall passing success-rates – 88.5 per cent and 87.8 per cent respectively, were inferior among the game's starters only to the 91.7 per cent figure compiled by the impeccable Idrissa Gana Gueye, who played 60 passes and found his man with 55 of them.
If midfielder Gueye’s statistics were reflective of a controlled and mature Everton display – the Toffees’ domination further demonstrated by their 56.4 per cent share of possession and 425 passes to Stoke’s 342 – then it was Tosun who sealed the deal.
Ultimately, much like the golfer blessed with a perfect game from tee to green but hopeless with a putter in his hand, a team’s good work counts for little if their striker is not converting it into numbers on the scoreboard.
It takes a formidable and confident personality to ignore that pressure… yet embrace it at the same time.
More than 3,000 Evertonians peering through the snow at Stoke rejoiced with their ecstatic new striker after he headed the winner beyond Butland.
Tosun was jubilant, his mind, you suspect, racing with myriad thoughts and emotions. Seconds earlier, his head had been clear as instinct took over, pulling him into space and demanding he meet Walcott’s cross with a precise finish. That is the life of a ruthless striker.
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/2018/03/19/tosun-analysis
by Paul McNamara
19 March 2018 14:30
Ask a top-class striker what goes through their head as they move in for the kill and you will likely be met with a blank look.
The same emotionless expression, in fact, painted on their features when they consider the whites of the goal and prepare to take aim.
There are the moments centre-forwards live for, when the most ruthless marksmen retreat into a mental space occupied by little other than an inner peace, at odds with the damage they are poised to inflict.
Witness Cenk Tosun’s cold-eyed cool at the clutch moments.
“It looks like he has got that knack,” said Sam Allardyce. “He seems to be born with that instinct of where to be.”
Tosun knows what to do when he gets there, too. His raw scoring statistics are impressive enough. But scratch beneath the surface and you are confronted with figures which talk of a man whose predatory flair is innate.
Everton’s January signing from Besiktas has scored four times in his past three matches. All three of his attempts against Stoke City on Saturday were directed on target, with the 26-year-old’s strike-rate of 66.67 per cent in the Potteries bettered by only one player in the Premier League across the weekend.
Tosun’s clinical nature and inherent belief in his own ability enable him to employ a degree of patience on the pitch. He does not go chasing chances where they do not exist, nor does he snatch at openings when they arrive.
Seven of his eight shots in the matches with Burnley, Brighton & Hove Albion and Stoke made the opposing goalkeeper work, at the very least.
Amid the flying bodies and muddled minds of a Premier League penalty area, Tosun retains his head, while opponents around him lose theirs. To extend the Kipling analogy, he trusts in himself where others have doubts.
He used these qualities to telling effect at Stoke’s bet365 Stadium, assuredly climbing to his feet after seeing a header saved, then detachedly observing the intervening scramble, before swooping in to wrap his left foot around the ball and lash it into the net to open the scoring.
Tosun had used his right foot to net against Brighton the previous week. He sandwiched these two strikes with smart headed finishes – at Burnley and then, decisively, for his second goal at Stoke.
“He’s always had the finishing in his locker,” said Everton manager Allardyce.
“His hold-up play has got better. He’s got the whole array of finishing in his locker – heading, left foot, right foot, tap-ins, follow-ups – he’s got this knack of being in the right place at the right time and he was certainly that with the quality of his second finish at Stoke.”
Tosun thrives on balls into the box. Accordingly, Everton’s wide players are instructed by Allardyce to provide a regular, blue-chip service for their Turkish striker.
Theo Walcott’s perfectly-flighted delivery to set up Tosun at the weekend was one of 13 crosses sent in from open play by the quartet of Walcott, Yannick Bolasie, and raiding full-backs Seamus Coleman and Leighton Baines.
Tosun does his bit in this respect, too. He picked out Walcott in front of goal with a wonderful right-wing ball of his own, moments before the two traded roles for Everton’s winning goal.
Wayne Rooney, meanwhile, was the nexus of much of his side’s attacking endeavours. The midfielder is renowned for his execution of pass. But his decision-making is equally impeccable.
Operating in a marginally more advanced position than the one in which he excelled seven days previously against Brighton, Rooney cleverly mixed up his approach. He sprang Walcott more than once in the first half, as Everton sought to expose Stoke left-back Kostas Stafylidis to the pace and directness of the Toffees England international winger.
Rooney used his dead-ball prowess to land an early free-kick on the head of an unmarked Tom Davies – and provided five passes in all which led directly to shooting opportunities.
Of his 60 passes, 32 were played in Stoke’s half of the field and 50 – 83.3 per cent – found their intended mark.
Wayne Rooney's heat map against Stoke.
Everton put a total of 26 cross into the hosts’ box, so giving goalkeeper Jack Butland and his serially stretched back four a problem to manage every 3.46 minutes on average.
The Toffees’ defence were subject to an assault of the less subtle variety. Stoke, reduced to 10 men on the half-hour following Charlie Adam’s dismissal for a lunge at Rooney – shortly after Rooney had backtracked to derail a home raid on the fringe of his own penalty area – sought to use Peter Crouch’s height as a means of getting up the pitch.
Phil Jagielka and Michael Keane, quite literally, rose to the challenge. Jagielka completed four headed clearances – only Crystal Palace’s James Tomkins and Steve Cook of Bournemouth recorded more in Saturday’s top-flight matches.
Jagielka made a total of seven clearances, two more than Potters right-back Glen Johnson, the player who was second highest in this particular category in the course the match.
Everton’s two centre-halves jointly epitomised the way in which their team went about grabbing this game by the scruff of the neck.
Keane’s second-half run and shot caught most of the 30,000-odd people in the ground by surprise – not least home number one Butland, who frantically improvised to shovel the ball around the post.
Captain Jagielka and former Manchester United defender Keane adopted higher starting positions following Adam’s dismissal, the pair on the front foot, wresting back possession on halfway and punching passes deep into opposing territory.
The two centre-halves hit a combined 22 accurate passes in Everton’s forward half. Indeed, Jagielka and Keane’s overall passing success-rates – 88.5 per cent and 87.8 per cent respectively, were inferior among the game's starters only to the 91.7 per cent figure compiled by the impeccable Idrissa Gana Gueye, who played 60 passes and found his man with 55 of them.
If midfielder Gueye’s statistics were reflective of a controlled and mature Everton display – the Toffees’ domination further demonstrated by their 56.4 per cent share of possession and 425 passes to Stoke’s 342 – then it was Tosun who sealed the deal.
Ultimately, much like the golfer blessed with a perfect game from tee to green but hopeless with a putter in his hand, a team’s good work counts for little if their striker is not converting it into numbers on the scoreboard.
It takes a formidable and confident personality to ignore that pressure… yet embrace it at the same time.
More than 3,000 Evertonians peering through the snow at Stoke rejoiced with their ecstatic new striker after he headed the winner beyond Butland.
Tosun was jubilant, his mind, you suspect, racing with myriad thoughts and emotions. Seconds earlier, his head had been clear as instinct took over, pulling him into space and demanding he meet Walcott’s cross with a precise finish. That is the life of a ruthless striker.
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samsonthedog1
Player Valuation: £8m
What's actually going on there? Can't understand the video at all. Or am I proper missing something?
I think he's saying to his butler "come over to Everton" and his butler replies "I'm coming over to Everton".
Absolutely superb video and well put together
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