2020/21 Carlo Ancelotti

[BlueToff]

Allan wasn’t really ready, I’ve got no idea why he was on the bench if he wasn’t fit enough to play. Gbamin is out, Delph is out, DCL is out, Pickford is out. Close to a fully fit squad but there’s three midfielders there who all of fit would feature ahead of Davies and Siggurdson.

I take your point though. For me it’s a symptom of a squad that isn’t good enough. It plays well one week and everyone forgets the Robles and are then massively disappointed when they come home to roost.

Pickford Coleman Davies Gomes Bernard Siggurdson are not good enough for where we want to be. Add also every single player who left the club on loan in January apart from the youngsters. The remaining players have zero competition for places and for most of them zero rotation options.

At the moment no matter how tired, poor, or lazy Siggurdson Gomes or Davies play they know more than likely they’re playing a part in every single game and making every match squad if fit. That’s just not good enough. These players should be close to being phased out he squad not guaranteed to be in it. Richalrison and DCL know we haven’t got a hope upfront without them. All of the defenders know that they’re all as bad as each other at times and they’ll all play games regardless .

It’s as close to a fully fit squad as we’ve had since the start of the season though

We can’t count Gbamin or Delph, though for different reasons. Pickford doesn’t make a difference in terms of what system we play in front of him, surely.

I agree Allan wasn’t ready but regardless that doesn’t make us play that system mate

of outfield players featuring regularly since mid-December, one wasn’t fit. I appreciate Dom is key, but that shouldn’t mean he plays five central midfielders mate

 

[Toffeelover]

all down to fitness. Our players can’t sustain pass and move with high tempo closing down. This is the root cause of our problem and it’s been plaguing us since moyes left. Our players seems reluctant to take risk knowing that any pass with high risk will end up losing possession and they have to work double hard to win it back, leading to safe sideway passes.

Vicious cycle of problems created by lack of fitness.

I see where you are coming frombut the players we have now and the manager we have now are not the same in the Moyes are, so how can it be plaguing us since Moyes.

 

[BlueToff]

I agree he needs to work on his approach to teams that play in that manner. It’s the 4th/5th game this season we have come up against a side who play like that and we have had no answers for it. The fact he came out after the game and just said “we couldn’t deal with their high pressing approach” is waving the white flag and admitting he 1) Doesn't know what to do or 2) He doesn’t have the team to be able to cope with that style of play (which is somewhat evident, particularly in the middle of the park).

Yeah, his comments were frustrating because he clearly saw the issue early on yet didn’t change it.

And, in this case (which hasn’t been the case for a fair chunk of the season - Newcastle at home an example of that) he had plenty of options to change it quickly

 

[Thomasc]

Yeah, his comments were frustrating because he clearly saw the issue early on yet didn’t change it.

And, in this case (which hasn’t been the case for a fair chunk of the season - Newcastle at home an example of that) he had plenty of options to change it quickly

This is my biggest issue, for a manager who is supposed so be so “tactically aware”.
The Newcastle and Fulham games, he did nothing to change the inevitable outcome in either match.

 

[bicycleheader]

This is definitely an unwarranted meltdown by lots of posters

sorry guys

People might think they are being reasonable and just worrying about small things, and are still willing to be patient, but I’m sorry it really shines through on lot of the posts since last night that the same old turn on the manager brigade would be quickly out already in his first full season if god forbid we went on a bad run of results now

ask yourself how close you are to questioning his positioning now.....like no win and poor performances for the next month and you’d be wondering who else can come in? I think some seem that close to turning reading the absolute certainty they seem to have of perceived failings and dismissing of fair context

there was even an handful of posters last night that couldn’t hide that they are waiting to be proved right with shouts of glorified fat Sam and not in his right mind

 

[DanEFC92]

Carlo Ancelotti burglary: Everton boss's stolen safe found

A safe stolen from the manager's Merseyside home is found forced open and dumped in a car park.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ChesterBlue]

Did you see Spurs play Brighton? They were battered.

Tbf Brighton batter a fair few teams, they usually just can’t finish

 

[ToffeeTim]

This is definitely an unwarranted meltdown by lots of posters

sorry guys

People might think they are being reasonable and just worrying about small things, and are still willing to be patient, but I’m sorry it really shines through on lot of the posts since last night that the same old turn on the manager brigade would be quickly out already in his first full season if god forbid we went on a bad run of results now

ask yourself how close you are to questioning his positioning now.....like no win and poor performances for the next month and you’d be wondering who else can come in? I think some seem that close to turning reading the absolute certainty they seem to have of perceived failings and dismissing of fair context

there was even an handful of posters last night that couldn’t hide that they are waiting to be proved right with shouts of glorified fat Sam and not in his right mind

Anyone who is questioning his position is deluded

But I stand by my criticism that he picked an awful team last night and was disrespectful towards the opponent.

My main worry though is that he gets fed up and leaves us. The idea of us replacing him is ludicrous. But he made a mistake yesterday.

 

[Curtis]

It's like he's fused the worst aspects of the previous regimes into one highly unpalatable package. Ultra defensive setup devoid of a highly potent counter attack that becomes pinned in, check. Dreadful side to side and sluggishly reticent offensive approach when we rarely have possession, check. Overuse of players that share too many similar characteristics and cancel each other out, like during Koeman era. Check. I know Carlo is impeded by the lackluster squad he has adopted but with the tactical savvy at his disposal he should doing better. I still support him but his recent decision making has been irksome.

 

[Jim Hopper]

This is definitely an unwarranted meltdown by lots of posters

sorry guys

People might think they are being reasonable and just worrying about small things, and are still willing to be patient, but I’m sorry it really shines through on lot of the posts since last night that the same old turn on the manager brigade would be quickly out already in his first full season if god forbid we went on a bad run of results now

ask yourself how close you are to questioning his positioning now.....like no win and poor performances for the next month and you’d be wondering who else can come in? I think some seem that close to turning reading the absolute certainty they seem to have of perceived failings and dismissing of fair context

there was even an handful of posters last night that couldn’t hide that they are waiting to be proved right with shouts of glorified fat Sam and not in his right mind

Those who are calling for him to be sacked and labelling him are stupid mate. I certainly don’t agree with that.

I don’t think it’s unjust at all to criticise him for performances like yesterday, he has to take some responsibility.

I love the man and want him to succeed with us. Improvements have been made it’s clear to see for the most part. Until he has his own starting XI and most of the garbage has been sent packing then I don’t think it’s fair to be calling for his head, yet.

The board need to take a massive chunk of blame, they haven’t backed him properly, they know he’s not here for the long term project, the man is in his early 60s and has spent the last two decades playing with tailor made top class players. Not bums like Andre Gomes, Iwobi, Sigurdsson etc....

He needs to work on this set up against lesser teams that press us no doubt about that and the blame has to lie on his feet because he hasn’t addressed or found an alternative to this approach and that’s my main gripe with him. Would he be able to set us up differently if he had different players available? Who knows. I think so. But he NEEDS to do something to address these current issues at home to lesser quality teams.

 

[COYBL25]

I agree he needs to work on his approach to teams that play in that manner. It’s the 4th/5th game this season we have come up against a side who play like that and we have had no answers for it. The fact he came out after the game and just said “we couldn’t deal with their high pressing approach” is waving the white flag and admitting he 1) Doesn't know what to do or 2) He doesn’t have the team to be able to cope with that style of play (which is somewhat evident, particularly in the middle of the park).

The answer is number 2.

 

[ToffeeTim]

The answer is number 2.

Obviously it's number 2 and we need a lot of better players.

But the idea we could beat a pressing team with Gomes, Sigurdsson and James was crazy. All 3 of them have zero interest in a battle and putting in the hard yards.

They are luxury players and we are arguably not good enough to carry one luxury player. If we play one, then it's James. And even James needs to really buck up his ideas as well because last night was far from acceptable in terms of effort.

 

[Chrismac]

This is definitely an unwarranted meltdown by lots of posters

sorry guys

People might think they are being reasonable and just worrying about small things, and are still willing to be patient, but I’m sorry it really shines through on lot of the posts since last night that the same old turn on the manager brigade would be quickly out already in his first full season if god forbid we went on a bad run of results now

ask yourself how close you are to questioning his positioning now.....like no win and poor performances for the next month and you’d be wondering who else can come in? I think some seem that close to turning reading the absolute certainty they seem to have of perceived failings and dismissing of fair context

there was even an handful of posters la st night that couldn’t hide that they are waiting to be proved right with shouts of glorified fat Sam and not in his right mind

In majority of the cases its really not though.
Shouts to get rid are ridiculous for many reasons, none moreso than the fact there isnt a single option out there better than what we have.
Personally, i'm happy to give Carlo time (his full contract term tbh), and importantly funds to build 'his' team, but dont think he cant or shouldnt be held accountable when there are obvious flaws in some of his thinking.
You can say he has won everything everywhere for eternity, but he has never managed a team so far from the finished article before and you can see it in his constant chopping & changing systems/set up/personnel that he's clutching at straws at times with the level of 'quality' he has at his disposal.
But if it makes you feel better keep giving the middle joint to anyone that doesnt agree with your opinion.

 

[Eggs]

....thought he was very slow to react last night. Going in at 0-0 was a major plus, yet there was no changes.

Threat down Fulham left, Rodriguez is not going to help his FB. Thought Iwobi was the obvious early change. Their first goal came when they doubled up on Coleman and Doucoure was drawn out wide & couldn’t go with his runner.

Coleman apparently shouting at Rodriguez and Richarlison because of their ‘body language’ was probably the epitome of the evening. Actually surprised at the Coleman substitution, given we were behind and needed to get up the pitch. Doucoure running on empty having to cover wide positions. we needed legs in front of Coleman, we needed legs up top.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

This is definitely an unwarranted meltdown by lots of posters

sorry guys

People might think they are being reasonable and just worrying about small things, and are still willing to be patient, but I’m sorry it really shines through on lot of the posts since last night that the same old turn on the manager brigade would be quickly out already in his first full season if god forbid we went on a bad run of results now

ask yourself how close you are to questioning his positioning now.....like no win and poor performances for the next month and you’d be wondering who else can come in? I think some seem that close to turning reading the absolute certainty they seem to have of perceived failings and dismissing of fair context

there was even an handful of posters last night that couldn’t hide that they are waiting to be proved right with shouts of glorified fat Sam and not in his right mind

There shouldn't even be a whiff of anyone wanting him gone. He's a world class manager who will eventually get it right, saying that though he shouldn't be immune from criticism when he cocks - up and he rightly should be held accountable along with the players.