Close to an admission we might have got the peno tho. "I suppose it was close" is a lot different to "I didn't see it" a la Wenger.
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Close to an admission we might have got the peno tho. "I suppose it was close" is a lot different to "I didn't see it" a la Wenger.
Do yourself a favour - swerve the whining and get back on topic eh?
timmy17
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yeah agreed..but i was referring to our sixth place finish in 2006-07 when we started unbeaten in our opening three fixtures
Okay but seems pretty clear as to why you picked out the Jags quote and the Jags stat. Sorry if wrong, but even if you don't mention him, your previous posts would seem to indicate you are highlighting these to knock the so-called Martinez style.
icburns
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I think you've missed the irony. Done talking with you mate, it's just not worth the effort.
timmy17
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i think ive been on topic 90% of the time..not a bad percentage tbf
if everton could put away 90% of his chances we'd be flying
...no cutting edge, no tempo in the last third. Presume this is the new approach everybody was after so we all need to be patient.
You,ve been told....now run along.
paulbefc
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I really hope you're right mate. At 22, if the player you describe is coming in, then it could be okay business at £12m. I'm glad someone who has watched him a decent amount thinks this.
The thing I see is, when I watch him at Wigan, even in the championship, he's not warranting that price tag. When I think of how he'll play for us, I see him doing more of what we saw today, i.e. spreading it wide to Coleman, Baines, Mirallas and Pienaar and not offering much more in these types of games. He'll surely do that job very adeptly, but Gibson does that and Barry can do it to a lesser extent.
As I said earlier today, for £4m I'd take him, but not for the massive fee mentioned. Do you think he's worth that to a club like ours?
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timmy17
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A two week break now to think things through anyway.
Ref didn't help, though Eggs.
Another hard luck story where we were the better side but we didn't get the decisions and didn't come away with the win.
Happened a fair few times over the last 4-5 years. Rather have points on the board, like, but it's better then being outplayed.
Was hoping we could go into that with a win, mate.
Would have made everyone a bit cheerier.
Royal Blue Jersey
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I had to go out unfortunately and missed the entire game
so I'm in the process of trawling back through this thread in an attempt to piece together something resembling a match report. All I can say is - without seeing today's game, just based on our previous efforts - if your description of McCarthy is accurate (and I believe he is a bring-the-ball-out-of-defence kind of player) then he is precisely what we need and, in that department for sure, a massive upgrade on Fellaini. We need people to get the ball off the defenders/keeper, bring it forward, and start the attacks from deep. Gibson is again unfit (and probably will be for a minimum of 20% of our games) and, though I am one of his biggest fans, it is increasingly apparent this isn't a job for Osman. He needs to be further forward using his excellent control and quick feet in tight forward areas, but then again Barkley has been such a revelation in that very role it is difficult to see where Osman could fit in.
McCarthy should bring an immediate improvement in the tempo of our game because right now, though we are playing some good composed football when we have it in the middle of the pitch, getting there is a combination of winning 50/50s from goal kicks or taking posession from the opposition. Nothing really comes forward from our own half, the defenders try and pass it round and wait for space but our centre halves just don't really know what to do with it (Alcaraz will be a big plus on his return, too; and Stones looks very good in this department) and the centre mids don't come back to help. It results in Jagielka and Distin playing 1-2s before knocking it long or back to the keeper. It means we are slower getting things going, and overall rely on opposition mistakes (defenders not winning 50/50s, people giving the ball away) to get ourselves going alot of the time.
Regardless, by all accounts this is the 4th game in which - because the opposition aren't exactly quality - this has resulted in us creating a host of chances and yet failing to score enough if any of them. This has to improve. We need to take our chances. Fellaini v West Brom and by the sounds of it Mirallas today should have scored and by taking just those 2 chances could have put us 4pts better off.
I just want Fellaini gone now, and Martinez given the funds to bring in players he wants and we need.
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