Can a player be an "Everton Great" without winning a trophy?

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Don't know if it has been said, but I suppose a player can be a 'great player' without actually being a 'great' for the club

I think Baines falls into this category, similarly with Cahill and Martyn etc. Not sure on Ferguson - he probably was/is a club 'great'.
 

TrixyStevens said:
A great player meaning of world class ability, then no. We've had lots of very good players but no great ones in the last 20-30 years.
Maybe Kanchelskis though we never really seen the best of him IMO.
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Wayne Rooney was only here two years, he was great while he was here and went on to become world class, pity it wasn't with us. Saved us financially as well so that was top class.
 
Mountfield1985 said:
He most certainly was. Only Graeme Sharp has scored more goals for Everton since the war.

Our 4th all time goalscorer behind Dixie Dean, Sharp and Sandy Young.
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You are entitled to your opinion, so he was a legend to you, fair enough, to me he was an average player who had one good season and wasn't anywhere as good as Graeme Sharp who grafted and made goals as well as scoring them and much more of a team player.
 
Gladystweet said:
That's the funny thing. Another criteria I would have is work rate, determination, and were they prepared to bleed for the club. Maybe that doesn't describe Bob but for being the icon he was, I'd probably sneak him on the list.
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Work rate, determination and were they prepared to bleed for the club, well that rules Latchford out, so you would have to
sneak him in. If Bob had been a miner you wouldn't have got a shovelful of coal out of him all week.
 
No.. To be a great you have to have a relatively long service at the club IMO, and if you are good enough to be considered a great at one of the most successful clubs in one of the best league, why would you play for a club not winning anything for a prolonged period of time?
 

Think people get mixed up with great player as opposed to a great servant of the club,you can have great players who arent Everton greats,legends I see as players who left an indelible mark on the club,and they are few and far between
 
Certain players galvanize and excite the fan's, score important goals, always give 100%, and seem to get the Everton ethos.

Tim Cahill is a recent example who springs to mind.
 
Personally, I really do not think any player that has played for us since the mid 90's, has been a true Everton 'great'

I don't even like mentioning the likes of Cahill and Arteta in the same sentence as names such as Sheedy, Steve, Reid, Bracewell, Ball, Kendall, Harvey, Young.

I know, I know. I just did. But you get my point.
 
Yes, without doubt. To say otherwise would be to do down our clubs great history and traditions baring in mind we won 4 of our 14 fantastic major honours in a 3 year period, leaving 10 spread over the other 135 years.

Here's one....

 

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