Boxing

I really don’t agree with the last bit. AJ was going to do a warm up fight against some random anyway after so long out of the ring. Why not take £70m or whatever it ends up being for a glorified work out?

Boxing has been embarrassing itself for years, may as well at least get paid off the back of it.
And he's the latest embarrassment in a series of them.

Former Olympic champion, former multiple heavy weight titles, I'll remember him as the fella who walked Jake Paul for four rounds and sold his integrity to give Jake Paul some credibility in the boxing world. Shameful but he can count his millions today.
 

And anyone who watched both fights knows there's no way what happened last night wasn't pre-scripted.

One real punch was all it would have taken and there's no reason he had to wait four rounds before throwing anything close to a real punch. He's obviously pulled punches the entire fight.
I’m not saying it wasn’t scripted, there was a lot more on the contract that wouldn’t allow Joshua to go 100%. From the first moment they went face to face, you could see how scared Paul was.

Anyone who knows boxing, knows that if you have a big ring, and got a fighter running around the ring and not engaging. It doesn’t matter who you are, you’re gonna struggle to catch them and hurt them. Especially if your a heavyweight and weigh in 2 stone more than your opponent. That’s not defending Joshua, because it was terrible, but styles make fights and we’ve seen world champions do exactly what Paul was doing last night. Prime example would be Nathan Cleverley vs Bellew in tbe rematch. Paul’s had 5 years of boxing coaching, believe it or not, his coaches are respected in boxing. One of the first things he’ll have been taught. Will be defensive work.
 
I don't know if marketing genius is the right term.

WWE has been convincing children their fights are real for decades, Paul isn't the first to do that but he is the first to know he could easily exploit the naive snotty nosed YouTube obsessed generation that made him famous in the first place through obviously staged boxing fights.

Who is paying real money to watch those fights? It's kids, nobody who takes the sport seriously believes any of it. I won't credit him for being the first to take advantage of the naivety of children.

He got his jaw broken for his 100 million there so fair play for that.

Everyone he calls out is someone who he can make very rich and is very willing to play along.

Shame on AJ for tarnishing what he legitimately accomplished by participating in that pantomime.

I never want to see him box again, he's an embarrassment to the sport for last night.
I’m not disagreeing with you at all but whatever way you wanna paint it, he’s a marketing genius whose made hundreds of millions from Boxing alone.

This nobody takes the sport serious is such a rubbish statement. Boxing has been in the gutter for years according to everyone anyways, so what difference did that do last night? Nothing, if anything it’s raised the profile of the sport but the same people moaning saying it makes boxing look a joke, are the same people saying boxing doesn’t get took serious. It’s a no win situation.

As far as Joshua tarnishing his reputation, he’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. Same people who slate him for been a blown up, over hyped, over-marketed and over-rated. He’s never gonna be in a win win situation. Say for an example, Joshua fights Fabio Wardley next and wins the WBA title, people will say, well Wardley isn’t a real champion anyways, got no amateur record and came from white collar boxing, does that tarnish his record either? No, it doesn’t.

If Paul called out anyone from Mayweather, Crawford, Joshua, Fury, Wilder to Chocolito, you think these fighters are bothered about there reputation been tarnished? No, they are gonna become very rich and make there life, friends and families life much better and that’s all that matters in life.

It’s a no win situation for Joshua, nor any fighter for that matter.

The only way it stops, is if people don’t give it the attention or Boxing has a major overhaul and gets its act together.
 

The only way it stops, is if people don’t give it the attention or Boxing has a major overhaul and gets its act together.
Hasn't happened in the last 100 years so no reason to think it happens anytime soon.

In terms of pure sporting integrity boxing is up there with greyhound or horse racing. What gets me is how people are more outraged over Jake Paul than they have been over countless corrupt judges, criminal gangs influencing the sport, self serving sanctioning bodies and the history of mandatory challengers being swerved or stepping aside when bigger purses are out there.

The most disgusting thing about the fight last night is a governing body sanctioning a novice, and not talented, cruiserweight going into a ring with a two-time unified world champion heavyweight as a full professional fight.

Jake Paul hasn't come in and upset the applecart. Boxing has always partly been a stage for tacky showmanship with a cash grab as the principal focus. He's merely the natural progression from the days of professional boxers making money beating up drunks in fairground boxing booths.
 
I’m not saying it wasn’t scripted, there was a lot more on the contract that wouldn’t allow Joshua to go 100%. From the first moment they went face to face, you could see how scared Paul was.

Anyone who knows boxing, knows that if you have a big ring, and got a fighter running around the ring and not engaging. It doesn’t matter who you are, you’re gonna struggle to catch them and hurt them. Especially if your a heavyweight and weigh in 2 stone more than your opponent. That’s not defending Joshua, because it was terrible, but styles make fights and we’ve seen world champions do exactly what Paul was doing last night. Prime example would be Nathan Cleverley vs Bellew in tbe rematch. Paul’s had 5 years of boxing coaching, believe it or not, his coaches are respected in boxing. One of the first things he’ll have been taught. Will be defensive work.
I don't doubt Paul was well coached on how to ride his bike but it was blatantly obvious that Joshua didn't fight seriously and that's why I'm criticizing him.
 
Hasn't happened in the last 100 years so no reason to think it happens anytime soon.

In terms of pure sporting integrity boxing is up there with greyhound or horse racing. What gets me is how people are more outraged over Jake Paul than they have been over countless corrupt judges, criminal gangs influencing the sport, self serving sanctioning bodies and the history of mandatory challengers being swerved or stepping aside when bigger purses are out there.

The most disgusting thing about the fight last night is a governing body sanctioning a novice, and not talented, cruiserweight going into a ring with a two-time unified world champion heavyweight as a full professional fight.

Jake Paul hasn't come in and upset the applecart. Boxing has always partly been a stage for tacky showmanship with a cash grab as the principal focus. He's merely the natural progression from the days of professional boxers making money beating up drunks in fairground boxing booths.

Totally agree with what you’re saying.

For me, boxing needs a massive overhaul. Judging needs to be completely changed. You have 3 judges, will all different opinions, shouldn’t be happening. We’ve seen far to many careers been derailed by poor judging.

The belt situation needs completely changing. Far to many belts and the governing bodies needs to scrap about 99% of the belts. This whole, global, regular, international and super belts they have are ridiculous.

Weight classes need changing too, far to many and the is talk of introducing a lighter cruiserweight division.

Like you said, this is nothing new, and it will continue to happen when money rolls in. It’s no longer a couple of million, it’s tens of millions been offered.
 
I don't doubt Paul was well coached on how to ride his bike but it was blatantly obvious that Joshua didn't fight seriously and that's why I'm criticizing him.

I get it from your point of I really do and I agree with it. A lot of fighters would have really struggled with that movement last night though to be fair. It wasn’t just the movement, it was also the fact, Paul would try a rugby tackle him or fall over when ever Joshua got close to him.
 

I get it from your point of I really do and I agree with it. A lot of fighters would have really struggled with that movement last night though to be fair. It wasn’t just the movement, it was also the fact, Paul would try a rugby tackle him or fall over when ever Joshua got close to him.
There was no way AJ was going to look good. If he knocked him out - it was expected and makes boxing look bad. If he doesn't knock him out - he's washed up. If he gets a decision - it'll be a 'snoozefest'.

He was a professional who knew he outclassed, outsized and outweighed his opponent. He did his job and took the money, as anyone would.

And say what you want about JP, but he's got guts and frankly, a good skill level for a relative novice.
 
A few months ago, Jake Paul was all set to fight Gervonta Davis, a super featherweight.

A few years ago, he was a skinny kid doing camp shows on the Disney channel. He is about as much a boxer as I am.

It was truly shameful that a monster of an heavyweight like Anthony Joshua took this fight. The guy could have been killed.
 

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