Boxing

[Brett Angell Delight]

Eubank is a good fighter, he’s a decent boxer. The is a huge difference. He wasn’t allowed to fight, was made to box. The weight, it was the same as the first fight. Age won’t have helped, probably caught up with him but can’t blame the weight, it worked for him in his last 7 fights.

Benns big problem dropping down in weight after such a long time away from his natural weight. He’ll struggle to win a world title at welter, best chance is Barrios.

Not sure you can say that the weight can’t be blamed, mate. If Eubank walked around at 160, fair enough, but he doesn’t and the cut might finally be taking its toll on him. Especially so, given his limited ability to rehydrate under this contract.

I think he could have one more fight at 160 with unlimited rehydration to test that theory out, but god knows who against. Just please, God, not Conor Benn.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

The real story of last night, of course, is the dramatic fall from grace of @Rita_Poon

Any comment today, Poonster?

 

[Rita_Poon]

The real story of last night, of course, is the dramatic fall from grace of @Rita_Poon

Any comment today, Poonster?

Thought it last night with a few cans gurgling about and am even more sure of it now, it was fixed for the trilogy, they were hyping the April bout as the fight of the year last night - it wasn't! And I saw Chris jnr toppled twice last night with shots and a drag down that would have bounced off his old man. And it wasn't even the most contentious thing of the night, the Assuman call in the main support bout was one of the worst bits of refereeing I can remember in boxing (and there's been a few!)
I saw jnr pull shots away when he was countering Conor. It was and always has been about money. This year for them two has been world class, not the fights, not the legacy, not the audience, but the promotion has been dynamite.
They've hyped a spectacle built from animosity at the top of the game from over 30 years ago into two sell outs and millions of pounds from two very average boxers.

Nigel would and did travel anywhere to box anyone, turn up and put on a show. If Conor is anything like he'll start getting active and acquire a belt. I'm not convinced. Everyone could see Nigel was Armageddon within his first 5 pro fights. Conor is 25 (pro fights) in and I don't see anything world beating.

Chris jnr is out of options, 36 years old, 39 fights under his belt, and has had an ok career, a few belts, a few big match ups, but nothing you'd point to and call superstar spectacular. I realise fighters are only as good as their era, and maybe it's a dearth in options and talent that has constrained the possibilities currently. There's easier money in sport than being punched in the face for a living. Those that loved it stand out by miles.

 

[widnesblue]

Not sure you can say that the weight can’t be blamed, mate. If Eubank walked around at 160, fair enough, but he doesn’t and the cut might finally be taking its toll on him. Especially so, given his limited ability to rehydrate under this contract.

I think he could have one more fight at 160 with unlimited rehydration to test that theory out, but god knows who against. Just please, God, not Conor Benn.

It wasn’t the weight that caused the issue, he just aged. He’s a fighter and not a boxer, can’t rely on fighting ability when you’re older, it will catch up with you. If the weight was the issue, why did he turn down the chance to fight canelo and Sherazz at 168pounds? He’s used the weight and rehydration as an excuse and sympathy vote in the first fight. He’s had these clauses in the past. That first fight took its toll on him physically due to his style and it caught up with him last night.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

It wasn’t the weight that caused the issue, he just aged. He’s a fighter and not a boxer, can’t rely on fighting ability when you’re older, it will catch up with you. If the weight was the issue, why did he turn down the chance to fight canelo and Sherazz at 168pounds? He’s used the weight and rehydration as an excuse and sympathy vote in the first fight. He’s had these clauses in the past. That first fight took its toll on him physically due to his style and it caught up with him last night.

My point was you can’t rule the weight cut out as at least part of the issue. Making weight/surviving rehydration clauses in earlier fights doesn’t mean it can’t be an issue now. As you said, his age is catching up with him, meaning the cut probably takes a greater toll. In any event he looks done at the top level. Just hard to see what’s left for him if he does choose to carry on.

 

[widnesblue]

My point was you can’t rule the weight cut out as at least part of the issue. Making weight/surviving rehydration clauses in earlier fights doesn’t mean it can’t be an issue now. As you said, his age is catching up with him, meaning the cut probably takes a greater toll. In any event he looks done at the top level. Just hard to see what’s left for him if he does choose to carry on.

I get what you’re saying but it wasn’t the weight that done him, was 100% age. His style hasn’t helped either. You could see how stiff his legs were, you could see him been miles behind with his reflexes and getting his shots off. It happens a lot with fighters and we see it more with British fighters due to the style over here. He’s never had a great boxing iq and had to rely on his toughness for two long. Top level? He’s never fought at the top level, when he’s been offered the chance, he’s turned it down on many occasion.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Nigel on channel 4 news just, can't keep doing training camps, has a wife and three kids in Australia that need him.

 

[Blue 1]

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His name is Mr Benn, but he dresses like Mr Eubank. Confusing.

 

[Wizard]

So it’s official then. 8 x 3 minute rounds with 10oz gloves. If it’s not bent Joshua should only need a couple of seconds.

Jake Paul to fight Anthony Joshua on December 19 as YouTuber turned boxer confirms sensational heavyweight fight

Anthony Joshua is set to meet Jake Paul in a sensational boxing crossover bout; The former heavyweight world champion will box the social media star in a sanctioned eight-round contest on December 19 in Miami; This isnt an AI simulation. This is Judgment Day, Jake Paul declared

www.skysports.com

 

[Harryflashman]

I get what you’re saying but it wasn’t the weight that done him, was 100% age. His style hasn’t helped either. You could see how stiff his legs were, you could see him been miles behind with his reflexes and getting his shots off. It happens a lot with fighters and we see it more with British fighters due to the style over here. He’s never had a great boxing iq and had to rely on his toughness for two long. Top level? He’s never fought at the top level, when he’s been offered the chance, he’s turned it down on many occasion.

I had a similar conversation yesterday , I think you’re spot on about his age but I also think the weight factored in as well . Eubank had a double whammy and the combination of factors hit him hard. As you know age being a factor particularly in boxing seems to arrive almost overnight.

 

[Swartzy]

So it’s official then. 8 x 3 minute rounds with 10oz gloves. If it’s not bent Joshua should only need a couple of seconds.

Jake Paul to fight Anthony Joshua on December 19 as YouTuber turned boxer confirms sensational heavyweight fight

Anthony Joshua is set to meet Jake Paul in a sensational boxing crossover bout; The former heavyweight world champion will box the social media star in a sanctioned eight-round contest on December 19 in Miami; This isnt an AI simulation. This is Judgment Day, Jake Paul declared

www.skysports.com

Hope the Boxing Federation actually come out and pull themselves away from all of this. It's a show, nothing more.

 

[Wizard]

Hope the Boxing Federation actually come out and pull themselves away from all of this. It's a show, nothing more.

It’s potentially a very dangerous show too. Jake Paul lost to bloody Tommy Fury. AJ could legitimately kill him or cause serious injury if the fight is clean. Boxing is dodgy enough though, even more so with these sideshows.

 

[frank_da_tank]

It’s potentially a very dangerous show too. Jake Paul lost to bloody Tommy Fury. AJ could legitimately kill him or cause serious injury if the fight is clean. Boxing is dodgy enough though, even more so with these sideshows.

Surely it cant just be a legit fight as you say it could be very very dangerous

 

[Wizard]

Surely it cant just be a legit fight as you say it could be very very dangerous

They are saying it is. Fully sanctioned heavyweight bout with 10oz gloves. Only 8 rounds but AJ should only need seconds.

I think if the Fury fight is still even vaguely on the cards AJ will take this seriously and want to put him away quickly. If he’s treating this as one last (very easy) mega paycheck then he might toy around with him for a bit and save him from a proper beating.

 

[frank_da_tank]

They are saying it is. Fully sanctioned heavyweight bout with 10oz gloves. Only 8 rounds but AJ should only need seconds.

I think if the Fury fight is still even vaguely on the cards AJ will take this seriously and want to put him away quickly. If he’s treating this as one last (very easy) mega paycheck then he might toy around with him for a bit and save him from a proper beating.

Noway him and fury fight imo