Boxing

[widnesblue]

Sorry mate, I come on here during work and scan over bits so I'm only replying to a few bits. And I'm pretty sure we've done all this in the past anyway.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse regarding Wilder and Povetkin. Why it was taking place in Moscow and why it didn't happy are bizarre comments to make because they're irrelevant to the point i clearly made. I think you're just trying to muddy the waters. And it was less than £3.5m Wilder would have got. Relative peanuts comparing to fighting Joshua who he apparently ducked, no?

The same Shelly Finkel Hearn used to call Shelley 90 times an interview in 60 interviews a week to deliberately sour relations?

If no offer was made, why was Joshua quoted saying "let's roll the dice" in reply to one? Multiple sources in the media quote Hearn in confirming the offer was made. Why did Hearn repeatedly confirm an offer was made?

I think you're mistaken over Shelly Finkel saying no offer was made. A quick google search got me the following quotes from him :-

“Joshua said on TV that I will fight him next, but he’s not fighting us next. He also said, ‘I swear if he offers me $50m, I’ll take the fight tomorrow.’

“Well, we got him the $50m and he still didn’t take it,” pointed out Finkel."

“In fact, they sent us an offer which is a flat-fee of $15m with a rematch clause, which we accepted, and then a date of September 15th at Wembley, which they knew was the date for Canelo. So, they never had the intention of doing it. How can you go the same day as Canelo?”

The Povetkin fight was made before Joshua was a world champion was it not? Obviously it was a long time ago but if it was £3.5m, yes it’s peanuts in comparison but the heavyweight division was classed as dead before the rise of Joshua. Like him or not, he brought the big paydays back to the division. He brought eyes back to the division after the Klitschko era. Fury and wilder couldn’t sell a ticket nor was the money big for making the fight before Fury popped dirty for PEDs. Making points about the fight not happening, isn’t bizarre nor muddying the waters. The Wilder vs Povetkin fight never happened because Povetkin popped dirty for PEDS. That’s a fact. Again, he had to go Russia because he was an American heavyweight who had no profile and couldn’t sell out tickets in his own town. Couldn’t sell out Vegas nor Barclays centre and loads of tickets were given out to fill the arena up, fact. So therefore it had to go Russia because that’s where the money was and Povetkin was the bigger draw, name and WBA champion.

I take what you’ve posted regarding Finkle, obviously my memory is jaded but did Wilder not come out and say he turned down 50m to fight Joshua? Because he did, then the narrative changed in Joshua’s favour. It was obvious that neither wanted the fight at the time but the fact Wilder come out and said he turned the Joshua fight down to face Fury, who was coming back after 3 years for been banned and his own personal problems. Is that not a duck? Those words came from Wilder himself, so it’s a duck, also a duck from Joshua.