Being more direct is the way to go?

[L4Everton]

I agree with that and posted similar above.

But we have to err toward player form over system failure as the more likely explanation here, because these players last season carried out the system to perfection.

It's purposeful blindness, certain sides last year did the high pressure pressing game and we came unstuck, erased from your memory or not included in your bogus stats?

'perfection' it's like online football schizophrenia.

 

[davek]

They did to an extent,if I remember rightly it took a good while for them to actually pick it up properly,in the mean time we still had a lot of backs to the wall games and came out winner ie United away

Yeah, it wasn't total mastery of the system. But it was carried out sufficiently well and for long periods of the season to demonstrate that they were in form and up to implementing the manager's plans.

 

[L4Everton]

I'm not piping you down, I'm asking you to do the leg work of researching the basis for your view so you can dismiss mine with a lot more authority that "dats **** dat lad, you're always lying and deflectin' and stuff"

You have had the question 'who is responsible for picking the game plan and the players that clearly can't handle it?' for near on a month, and you still haven't answered. "Chicken and egg" was how you backed down. Was only a matter of time mate

 

[AlE]

It's purposeful blindness, certain sides last year did the high pressure pressing game and we came unstuck, erased from your memory or not included in your bogus stats?

'perfection' it's like online football schizophrenia.

Sod the stats and answer the thread title...

Do you think we should be more direct?

 

[L4Everton]

Do you think we should be more direct?

Define 'direct'.

 

[tommye]

Ha Ha Ha....yes, and now I'm trying facts...

Unreal.

 

[AlE]

Define 'direct'.

Fair question.. I suppose it's a bit subjective.

You could perhaps think of it on a scale of one to ten, one being picking the shortest, easiest pass, with the purpose of keeping hold of the ball and nothing else. Ten being just continuously hitting it long to Lukaku..

Pick a number mate

 

[vagant59]

Sod the stats and answer the thread title...

Do you think we should be more direct?

The simple solution is the right DRESS for the for the RIGHT OCCASION. Easy

 

[nsno-chris]

Those so called stats in the OP don't mean jack, do you know how many variables there are to even determine some sort pattern

 

[L4Everton]

Fair question.. I suppose it's a bit subjective.

You could perhaps think of it on a scale of one to ten, one being picking the shortest, easiest pass, with the purpose of keeping hold of the ball and nothing else. Ten being just continuously hitting it long to Lukaku..

Pick a number mate

You see, its that simplistic analysis that is part of the problem, how much trouble does it put the receiver under? is the shortest pass the easiest?

So my number right here is Zero.

 

[L4Everton]

Those so called stats in the OP don't mean jack, do you know how many variables there are to even determine some sort pattern

Facts tho, innit.

 

[AlE]

You see, its that simplistic analysis that is part of the problem, how much trouble does it put the receiver under? is the shortest pass the easiest?

So my number right here is Zero.

Zero isn't an option. You've completely ruined my game ffs

 

[L4Everton]

Zero isn't an option. You've completely ruined my game ffs

Call me the opposition manager who sent his midfielders out to ruin your options. You are Martinez, and I am Godzilla !!!!

 

[Seamus Colemole]

I agree with that and posted similar above.

But we have to err toward player form over system failure as the more likely explanation here, because these players last season carried out the system to perfection.

A system on its own doesn't win or lose football games.

Players in the right system for those players wins games, players in the wrong system for those players loses games (in general but obviously not a hard and fast rule).

Last season teams were sitting off and letting us have the ball, hence our defnesive unit making a lot of passes between themselves. They weren't pressing as high up the picth with the ball, they were waiting till they had it before moving up the pitch with the ball.

This season started similar. Until Spurs away. They pressed us high, our defensive unit then found themselves unable to play as usccesfully in the same system due to the change in systems of the opposition. Others teams did the same as spurs and we couldn't cope.

At which point you either change the players to ones who could play that system under pressure or you change the system. The former isn't an option yet so it has to be the latter. Doesn't have to be permanent, just until you can do the former.

It's that simple for me, The difference between last season and since Spurs away is the high pressing of the opposition. Since then, the way of playing hasn't been the right one for the players we have.

But since West Ham we've changed to a slightly more suitable one and have had performance and average results, but better ones than most of the previous 9 or so matches.

 

[AlE]

Call me the opposition manager who sent his midfielders out to ruin your options. You are Martinez, and I am Godzilla !!!!

Koff, señor Godthilla