Baghdad Bob strikes again?

[neil999]

He chats utter garbage and I've run out of patience with him, he'll still be here next season but I would quite happily see him sacked and someone competent put in charge to try and stop our most talented young players leaving in the summer.

ooh your as angry as everyone else, fair enough...i hope we are all happier soon

 

[oldblue]

Fair round up but even reading through it's easy to forget there weren't as many fit defensive options as you'd hope.
Don't see his subs as adventurous so much as an attempt to stop crosses coming in and hold the ball in our half.
Almost worked, didn't work.

 

[mkrudden]

Good, balanced article that.

 

[Bungle]

ooh your as angry as everyone else, fair enough...i hope we are all happier soon

I've been standing by him neil, but he's a knobhead. He's got us playing some beautiful football at times, but I have no idea what's happened to the Martinez of the first season in terms on substitutions and tactical changes during games, he seems to have just bottled it and gone backwards.

 

[daz4matty]

He chats utter garbage and I've run out of patience with him, he'll still be here next season but I would quite happily see him sacked and someone competent put in charge to try and stop our most talented young players leaving in the summer.

Spot on mate thank goodness the decision won't be down to useless bill

 

[Lanolin]

Fair round up but even reading through it's easy to forget there weren't as many fit defensive options as you'd hope.
Don't see his subs as adventurous so much as an attempt to stop crosses coming in and hold the ball in our half.
Almost worked, didn't work.

Sorry, you're going to have to explain to me how making the team more narrow was supposed to stop crosses coming in? You're also going to have to explain how conceding 3 in 12 minutes having only really had 1 scare in the previous 78 could be said to have 'almost worked'.

 

[4737carlin]

Fair round up but even reading through it's easy to forget there weren't as many fit defensive options as you'd hope.
Don't see his subs as adventurous so much as an attempt to stop crosses coming in and hold the ball in our half.
Almost worked, didn't work.

Wonder what Oviedo is making on his Lennon sub?

 

[oldblue]

Sorry, you're going to have to explain to me how making the team more narrow was supposed to stop crosses coming in? You're also going to have to explain how conceding 3 in 12 minutes having only really had 1 scare in the previous 78 could be said to have 'almost worked'.

No need to be sorry. I was referring to the various changes made at the start of and during the game that were said in the article to be attack minded but could just as easily be seen to be about holding the ball further up the pitch and always having cover out wide. The Lennon sub I presume was a judgment call based on his tiredness rather than tactics and there weren't a lot of options in who to bring on.
So a pen to go three up against ten men and a probable penalty denied at two two. Definitely almost worked

 

[Stikapos]

Tired, yes, but I thought there were other factors. I was surprised at how Carroll and Antonio made the Blues backline look tiny on the first goal. Antonio saw that he wasn't being marked properly and called for the cross and it was delivered on the head of a pin. Same theme on the second goal, Sakho outjumping Seamus. Awfully tough to play defense when you can't get to a cross before your opponent, setting aside the lack of pressure on the crosses.

 

[Lanolin]

No need to be sorry. I was referring to the various changes made at the start of and during the game that were said in the article to be attack minded but could just as easily be seen to be about holding the ball further up the pitch and always having cover out wide. The Lennon sub I presume was a judgment call based on his tiredness rather than tactics and there weren't a lot of options in who to bring on.
So a pen to go three up against ten men and a probable penalty denied at two two. Definitely almost worked

Ah, i see. I assumed you were talking about the subs when you said changes, my mistake.

Totally disagree on the lack of options though. He had a like for like swap in Deulofeu, a defensive swap for the same formation in Baines, an old head who's adept at slowing the game and winning free kicks etc in Osman, and a key member of the team who could come on to shore up the middle of the pitch and keep hold of the ball in Barry. Instead he chose to put on a second striker with no experience at all of playing in the premier league, and who looked as though somebody had kidnapped him, waterboarded him for a couple of hours and then given him a load of sleeping pills before tipping him out in the middle of nowhere, which just happened to be during a high intensity game of premier league football.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

Ah, i see. I assumed you were talking about the subs when you said changes, my mistake.

Totally disagree on the lack of options though. He had a like for like swap in Deulofeu, a defensive swap for the same formation in Baines, an old head who's adept at slowing the game and winning free kicks etc in Osman, and a key member of the team who could come on to shore up the middle of the pitch and keep hold of the ball in Barry. Instead he chose to put on a second striker with no experience at all of playing in the premier league, and who looked as though somebody had kidnapped him, waterboarded him for a couple of hours and then given him a load of sleeping pills before tipping him out in the middle of nowhere, which just happened to be during a high intensity game of premier league football.

Spot-on

Although, I'd have left Lennon on another 5 mins anyway, as west ham weren't up to much, despite lennon's tiredness. We had ample opportunity to take the tempo out of the game even with lennon on for the full 90 imo.

 

[Efcjake]

Thought this bit in particular was interesting;

I used to watch his press conferences, but in recent months I lost interest.

He dodges questions like Ali vs Frazier. His pre-West Ham presser was 18 minutes long and after watching half of it my brain just shuts off as he goes about repeating catch-phrases and giving non-committal answers.


He knows how to handle the media, but everybody is waking up to the fact that he is doing a lot of talking without a lot of substance behind it.

 

[daz4matty]

I used to watch his press conferences, but in recent months I lost interest.

He dodges questions like Ali vs Frazier. His pre-West Ham presser was 18 minutes long and after watching half of it my brain just shuts off as he goes about repeating catch-phrases and giving non-committal answers.


He knows how to handle the media, but everybody is waking up to the fact that he is doing a lot of talking without a lot of substance behind it.

Thats why the media lay off him.

 

[oldblue]

Ah, i see. I assumed you were talking about the subs when you said changes, my mistake.

Totally disagree on the lack of options though. He had a like for like swap in Deulofeu, a defensive swap for the same formation in Baines, an old head who's adept at slowing the game and winning free kicks etc in Osman, and a key member of the team who could come on to shore up the middle of the pitch and keep hold of the ball in Barry. Instead he chose to put on a second striker with no experience at all of playing in the premier league, and who looked as though somebody had kidnapped him, waterboarded him for a couple of hours and then given him a load of sleeping pills before tipping him out in the middle of nowhere, which just happened to be during a high intensity game of premier league football.

Yep. Niasse wouldn't have been my choice but the only really defensive option there was Baines, assuming Barry was unfit. Which presumably would have meant switching Ovideo to left midfield and possibly more work and adjustment for him assuming he was probably pretty tired too. It's all in hindsight though and Niasse was presumably supposed to come on and give their potential threat on the right something to think about. As it is he just gave us all something to think about.
I think the other changes worked to some degree and I just think it's unfair to see Bilic changes as any less of a shot in the dark that came off mainly because he was facing a tired side.

 

[kithnou]

someone care to explain to me what's wrong with parking our own bus one time when down to 10 men and 2-0 up?