Aviation

[Exeter_Gently]

I flew from Wellington to Nelson recently, a 30 minute flight over the Cook Strait. Went over in an older 12 seater that was like a transit van with wings. Back on a more modern 10 seater. Both flights have just the one pilot, no cabin crew, direct line of sight to the cockpit and view through front screen to the runway. Like a fairground ride tbh.

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Jesus

 

[Harryflashman]

Looks like a horrible crash on takeoff in India nound for Gatwick

Blown my mind that someone has reportedly survived

 

[Walken]

Blown my mind that someone has reportedly survived

Where they at the back? saw the images of a partially in tact tail. Looked like it lost thrust or speed after a critical point during take off. Horrific.

 

[Harryflashman]

Where they at the back? saw the images of a partially in tact tail. Looked like it lost thrust or speed after a critical point during take off. Horrific.

11a apparently but no real clue

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

11a apparently but no real clue

He was a Brit as well. Guess he’ll be taking the bus home now.

 

[RufusCat]

He was a Brit as well. Guess he’ll be taking the bus home now.

If it's running.

 

[RAFUH]

@SerenityNigh

 

[SerenityNigh]

One of the coolest things I’ve seen in a long time (watch the video in the 2nd link for audio):

 

[verreauxi]

One of the coolest things I’ve seen in a long time (watch the video in the 2nd link for audio):

Have lots of questions but this was pretty crazy and amazing. Did the plane do a loop before landing on the runway...it seemed so? Was this a commercial plane? I recall reading (in a spy novel by Nelson DeMille) that commercial jets like Air Bus could do this...is this true?

 

[verreauxi]

I learned about this from the only other forum I frequent (a watch forum--"nerd alert!!"), where a few folks are pilots. Anyways, this was posted and I found it amazing. Imagine losing an engine--with a student--and doing a "crash landing". At first I thought he was narrating the descent, but this was an overdub. (perhaps posted before).

 

[SerenityNigh]

Have lots of questions but this was pretty crazy and amazing. Did the plane do a loop before landing on the runway...it seemed so? Was this a commercial plane? I recall reading (in a spy novel by Nelson DeMille) that commercial jets like Air Bus could do this...is this true?

Was a King Air single pilot operation. Not sure if privately owned or charter. I’m not familiar with any commercial operations that do this. Don’t know how this is activated, if it’s automated or pilot flipping a switch.

Looks like the autopilot chose a course direct to destination then did one clearing turn before proceeding to land. Approaches are already in the database, the other turns probably are to give time for ATC to clear the area, etc. Presumably the system would go back to another clearing turn/loop if there was a traffic conflict. And then after landing I guess the autopilot waits a limited amount of time before shutting down the engines. Really amazing stuff, this is peak AI.

 

[SerenityNigh]

I learned about this from the only other forum I frequent (a watch forum--"nerd alert!!"), where a few folks are pilots. Anyways, this was posted and I found it amazing. Imagine losing an engine--with a student--and doing a "crash landing". At first I thought he was narrating the descent, but this was an overdub. (perhaps posted before).

Great job in that situation. Weird bird’s eye view also can’t tell what type of airplane that is but in most cases the response is the same. What kind of watches are they wearing?

 

[cronullasharks]

My son is an absolute aviation nut or avgeek as they refer to themselves. Many a Saturday or Sunday spent planespotting at Sydney airport, when we were in Europe last year he was more excited to see the different airlines that don't fly here than the actual holiday itself.

 

[ADM320]

Have lots of questions but this was pretty crazy and amazing. Did the plane do a loop before landing on the runway...it seemed so? Was this a commercial plane? I recall reading (in a spy novel by Nelson DeMille) that commercial jets like Air Bus could do this...is this true?

I’m not familiar with that airport but it would make sense for it to fly some sort of procedural approach to give ATC time to move anything else out of the way and also provide some certainty about the flightpath.

Most modern commercial aircraft can autoland (generally used in fog where pilots can’t see sufficiently to land) but require the crew to arm the appropriate autopilot modes and lower the wheels and flaps for landing. This system does all of that for you (and flies you safely to a suitable airport whilst broadcasting its intentions to ATC) at the push of a button.

Absolutely amazing bit of technology.

 

[slipstream86]

Was a King Air single pilot operation. Not sure if privately owned or charter. I’m not familiar with any commercial operations that do this. Don’t know how this is activated, if it’s automated or pilot flipping a switch.

Looks like the autopilot chose a course direct to destination then did one clearing turn before proceeding to land. Approaches are already in the database, the other turns probably are to give time for ATC to clear the area, etc. Presumably the system would go back to another clearing turn/loop if there was a traffic conflict. And then after landing I guess the autopilot waits a limited amount of time before shutting down the engines. Really amazing stuff, this is peak AI.

Garmin Automini.....It can either sense a pilot incapacitation by monitoring pilot inputs (or lack of) and then activate automatically, or an easily located and operated single switch - designed as such for the non pilot to be able to press in the event of a singe pilot incap. Then the technological magic takes over and saves the day. There are plenty of single pilot approved Part CAT on King Airs in the UK (with caveats on age, training and other operational requirements) - I assume the same in the US, as its generally much less regulated.

Have lots of questions but this was pretty crazy and amazing. Did the plane do a loop before landing on the runway...it seemed so? Was this a commercial plane? I recall reading (in a spy novel by Nelson DeMille) that commercial jets like Air Bus could do this...is this true?

Advanced as it is, there isn't a safety case for this technology to be warranted in true multi pilot commercial aircraft. a pilot incap is obviously far far less serious when there is another one sat there. The absolute minute chance of a double pilot incap is deemed too small to justify the cost of certifying such a system.

Other than the infamous Helios crash where everyone except one cabin crew member passed out with hypoxia, I've only ever heard of a double pilot incap once.....The captain had a very sudden onset of feeling groggy in the cruise, unstrapped and was puking up at the rear of the flight deck. The first officer goes into single pilot mode and starts actioning the checklist to divert the aircraft, then during this time, the smell of the sick had drifted forwards and started to make him feel queasy....end up puking up himself. Now double pilot incap By this time the captain had come round a bit and strapped in again and takes over whilst the FO is hurling up. Couldn't write it.