Anyone read Duncs book yet?

ICTChris said:
He absolutely did get a say in releasing players when he did. He released our club captain Sean Welsh to sign for one of the clubs competing directly with us, Queens Park. He also released one of our most solid performers for a nominal fee, Dave Carson. I know for a fact he did that, he didn’t have to - at this point the club weren’t in administration, he didn’t have to release these guys and he signed eight or nine players in the window, none of whom were really successful. He also signed his son, who is the worst footballer I’ve ever seen on a professional park and I’ve watched lower league Scottish football for 30 odd years. That’s not an exaggeration, I have played fives on my lunch break with better players.

He did go unpaid at the start of this season - I can’t fault him for that, he didn’t have to do it, fair play to him. However, he will get his money - he’s listed as a football creditor so we have to pay the money we owe to get out of admin. No complaints there, everyone should get their wages but it’s more accurate to say his money is deferred than he worked for free.

He apparently slates the club in his book, says our facilities were crap and we didn’t have any money for amenities etc. We have won Scottish cups, qualified for Europe, been an established top flight club with those same facilities, his comments just sound bitter. He also supported our then board and CEOs attempt to move the entire off field part of the club 150 miles from our city to cut costs, a move that would have been the death of our club. He let our board treat some our players appallingly - he told one that he’d be getting a new contract only for the guy to get an email telling him he was released a few weeks later; a club legend was stiffed for an operation on a ruptured ACL (our fans crowdfunded his surgery). He just sat back and did nothing and he could have stood up for his players - given his profile and contract he was basically unsackable.

I realise this is probably more than you or anyone else on here wants to know about the last few years of Inverness Caley Thistle so I’ll leave it there, I haven’t even mentioned the battery farm or Duran Duran gigs yet
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Hi there.

I used to travel to Inverness quite frequently in the days of the Telford Road (I think) ground and even the days before the two clubs merged.

The co-op opposite used to be good for beer. I remember your new stadium being built and have been several times. Lovely place and people.

Clearly and obviously you have a different experience of Duncan Ferguson and that’s fair enough.

Only one club for me, Everton, but I do have a soft spot for ICTFC as my nan absolutely loved you.
 

Socistep2 said:
I've finished it now and share some of those sentiments, he obviously worked very hard to get acceptance at a coaching level but there was a theme in the book that he was trying to justify that he must be good but he got on well with koeman, Carlo etc., you also got the sense that he wasn't sure himself if he actually was a good coach or just got the jobs cos of being a club legend

Similar with management, I'm just not sure he is good at it, he didn't do well at FGR or ICT and seemed to have plenty of excuses combined with only getting jobs at clubs that were really struggling - especially reading the ICT fans view above

I feel like he would be much better in a club ambassador/media type role, he's a warm personality who seems to get on well with people and all his interviews recently have been really good
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Totally agree, one of the issues he had at ICT was a few fans shouted abuse at him. He even states it in his book it was about 5 of them, but that was enough for him to change his behaviour.

Just imagine if he had been full time manager here! The abuse will come, whether they like you as a person or not. Dunc doesn't have the thick skin required to do the job. As you say a ambassador role is what he needs and that way the relationship won't be spoiled.
 
davek said:
Those Evertonians who wanted him to get the FT job at this club should read this post and cringe.

He was nowhere near good enough for Inverness CT, never mind Everton.

What an appalling misjudgement to want him as our manager.

Those that wanted him know who they are.
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Defo matę I agree, they should be lobbying for Gareth Southgate as manager instead.
 

Loved Dunc as a player, we had very little to cheer for the bulk of his time here, apart from top Everton legends like...Amokachi...and Limpar...apparently (lol). Nowhere near the best number nines we've had over the years but scored some important goals and always seemed like a nice guy. Met him once before a game years ago and he couldn't have been more accommodating or kinder.

Not the right person to manage the club but the win over Chelsea was a great moment. Looking forward to reading his book, I'm sure it will be an improvement on the ghastly Sharpy! autobiography by a genuine legendary number nine, which unfortunately read like it was written by Alan Partridge...'needless to say, I had the last laugh' describes almost every anecdote.
 
So from this thread I've learned;

Duncan Ferguson (230 games, 58 goals) = fraud, galoot, cone layer, thug.
Anders Limpar (66 games, 5 goals) = legend of the club, hero to all young blues.
Daniel Amokachi (43 games, 10 goals) = legend of the club, hero to all young blues.

Oh, and Rafael Benitez is a much better choice for Everton manager than Moyes, with Sir Gareth Southgate a close second.
 
Not read it yet but just reading the posts here, since when did Everton fans start trying to be edgy?? All these shouts saying Big Dunc is overrated, not a legend etc. Jesus Christ the man helped us win our last trophy, Moyes literally said the other week Big Dunc's goal against United got us Champions League football. Credit where credits due to the guy, not without playing issues and definitely less successful in his second spell at Everton (not his fault he had an ongoing hernia problem) but still.
 
supertoffee98 said:
Not read it yet but just reading the posts here, since when did Everton fans start trying to be edgy?? All these shouts saying Big Dunc is overrated, not a legend etc. Jesus Christ the man helped us win our last trophy, Moyes literally said the other week Big Dunc's goal against United got us Champions League football. Credit where credits due to the guy, not without playing issues and definitely less successful in his second spell at Everton (not his fault he had an ongoing hernia problem) but still.
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Legends ran through brick walls for Everton no matter who we were playing. Ferguson walked around uninterested in quite a few games, and got ridiculous red cards that cost us points. Loved watching him when he was up for it, but that's wasn't so often was it.
 
Finished it last night. It’s not the best book I’ve ever read but It’s definitely worth a read, he comes across as an honest, very strong-minded, loyal, hardworking man who isn’t afraid to stand up for himself.
Here’s my thoughts..
He was incredibly bitter about the way the SFA treated him, and rightfully so, spending time in HMP Barlinnie sounds like a truly awful experience.
He absolutely loves Everton football club. Loves the fans and the city of Liverpool.
He was very naive getting involved with wrong people in Liverpool.
He’s very generous with, but also absolutely awful with money. Only truly understood it’s valve when he was going bankrupt.
Alcohol was not his friend and contributed to a lot of his fitness issue's and bad choices off the field. He knows this and has a lot of regrets. Which he frequently admits.
He’s a good coach, great at running training sessions and has an eye for a player but he isn’t a manager. He doesn’t have the right temperament, he’s too emotional. He’s worked with a lot of great managers but doesn’t appear to be good enough tactically and doesn’t seem to have a strong opinion on how he wants to set up teams to play.
There’s some interesting insights into his relationships with some of the managers and owners and who he got on with and respected and who he didn’t. I won’t go into detail here but personally I’m not too surprised by his views as they pretty much already aligned with my thoughts. Some on here won’t agree, but that’s life.
 

BlueAmigo said:
Legends ran through brick walls for Everton no matter who we were playing. Ferguson walked around uninterested in quite a few games, and got ridiculous red cards that cost us points. Loved watching him when he was up for it, but that's wasn't so often was it.
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I get what you're saying but I think that's a quality issue. Nobody is going to compare to the squad of 83-87, in the 90s and similarly now we appreciate and love our good players we've had more recently, Ndiaye, Richarlison etc. they stood out in their squads but still don't match the Everton gold standard of the mid 80s. Big Dunc stood out in his squad but didn't have the stamina or consistent fitness to run through brick walls every week like we did in the 80s.
 
Bishop Thumpety-Thump said:
Loved Dunc as a player, we had very little to cheer for the bulk of his time here, apart from top Everton legends like...Amokachi...and Limpar...apparently (lol). Nowhere near the best number nines we've had over the years but scored some important goals and always seemed like a nice guy. Met him once before a game years ago and he couldn't have been more accommodating or kinder.

Not the right person to manage the club but the win over Chelsea was a great moment. Looking forward to reading his book, I'm sure it will be an improvement on the ghastly Sharpy! autobiography by a genuine legendary number nine, which unfortunately read like it was written by Alan Partridge...'needless to say, I had the last laugh' describes almost every anecdote.
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...apart from an FA Cup win from a team full of winners of...erm...an FA Cup...but you and others picked out a bit part player to that cup run who made a second haf sub appearance in the final to hero-worship....if only there'd have been other heroes about that day who'd started the game and even scored in it...or who had scored decisive goals to get us to the final along the way....


....what an oportunty missed.

No more heroes anymore...
 
davek said:
...apart from an FA Cup win from a team full of winners of...erm...an FA Cup...but you and others picked out a bit part player to that cup run who made a second haf sub appearance in the final to hero-worship....if only there'd have been other heroes about that day who'd started the game and even scored in it...or who had scored decisive goals to get us to the final along the way....


....what an oportunty missed.

No more heroes anymore...
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Whose goal against the RS earlier that season (when we were bottom of the league) finally sparked a good run ending in a cup win?
 

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