That might be my favourite thing ever.
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1966efc
Player Valuation: £20m
Oh we are a "massive club" all right.
We have just been run by the wrong people since the early nineties.
Never mind Abramovitch, imagine Everton had have had a Matthew Harding on the board when the Sky/PL bandwagon was starting to roll
Or a David Devin when King's Dock was a possibility.
If we ever get the right people at the helm our name will be back in lights and no mistake.
Before the war, Newcastle and Arsenal had won more. After the war, 71 years & 8 trophies. "Massive" is more in the mind of the beholder than something you can pin down. If it's massive to its fans, fair enough. For me, we're the little kid tagging along behind the big kids shouting, "Look at me, look at me."
I'd say we've been run by the wrong people since the mid thirties with a ten year exception in the sixties. No idea what the current major shareholder will do but the January window may help to define our status. Can we attract "big" names? What will the new stadium turn out to be? I'm not sanguine.
everton2004
Player Valuation: £35m
From looking at the title I thought you were going to suggest we sign Shane Long!
(I'd be fine with that right now tbh)
(I'd be fine with that right now tbh)
I don't really know what your point is.
Before the 1990s, we had won more league titles than Manchester United.
They went a quarter of a century without winning the league after 1967.......they were still a "massive" club during that period.
Arsenal were mainly a struggling team when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s and before they won the title on that never to be forgotten night at Anfield in '89 had only been Champions once in near enough forty years, 1971.
But I always knew they ranked up there with EFC as a "massive" club.
Spurs on the other hand have only won the league twice.....the last time over fifty years ago.
No one would suggest they are not a massive club.
Even before the Sheik arrived at City, they were always a massive club in most people's eyes, despite being in the third division at the turn of the century.
Liverpool's last league title win is ancient history now.
In short, bagging titles alone does not make a club "massive".
Leicester City say hello
I agree with you that what makes a club "massive" is an intangible thing and indeed "hard to pin down".
But one definite component is a belief within that club that it is indeed a massive club.....and that belief starts with the fans and they need to let that club know how insistent they are that aspirations are never allowed to slip, even during long fallow periods.
I don't know if this new stadium by the river will ever materialise, but the fact we can even contemplate it and it is an ongoing and real possibility is testament to the fact that we remain a "massive" football club
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AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't really know what your point is.
Before the 1990s, we had won more league titles than Manchester United.
They went a quarter of a century without winning the league after 1967.......they were still a "massive" club during that period.
Arsenal were mainly a struggling team when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s and before they won the title on that never to be forgotten night at Anfield in '89 had only been Champions once in near enough forty years, 1971.
But I always knew they ranked up there with EFC as a "massive" club.
Spurs on the other hand have only won the league twice.....the last time over fifty years ago.
No one would suggest they are not a massive club.
Even before the Sheik arrived at City, they were always a massive club in most people's eyes, despite being in the third division at the turn of the century.
Liverpool's last league title win is ancient history now.
In short, bagging titles alone does not make a club "massive".
Leicester City say hello
I agree with you that what makes a club "massive" is an intangible thing and indeed "hard to pin down".
But one definite component is a belief within that club that it is indeed a massive club.....and that belief starts with the fans and they need to let that club know how insistent they are that aspirations are never allowed to slip, even during long fallow periods.
I don't know if this new stadium by the river will ever materialise, but the fact we can even contemplate it and it is an ongoing and real possibility is testament to the fact that we remain a "massive" football club
Well said that man !!!
NSNO !!
COYB !!!
...it just makes everybody feel better when you support a good, entertaining team that wins most of its football matches. It's not asking for much.
1966efc
Player Valuation: £20m
I don't really know what your point is.
Before the 1990s, we had won more league titles than Manchester United.
They went a quarter of a century without winning the league after 1967.......they were still a "massive" club during that period.
Arsenal were mainly a struggling team when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s and before they won the title on that never to be forgotten night at Anfield in '89 had only been Champions once in near enough forty years, 1971.
But I always knew they ranked up there with EFC as a "massive" club.
Spurs on the other hand have only won the league twice.....the last time over fifty years ago.
No one would suggest they are not a massive club.
Even before the Sheik arrived at City, they were always a massive club in most people's eyes, despite being in the third division at the turn of the century.
Liverpool's last league title win is ancient history now.
In short, bagging titles alone does not make a club "massive".
Leicester City say hello
I agree with you that what makes a club "massive" is an intangible thing and indeed "hard to pin down".
But one definite component is a belief within that club that it is indeed a massive club.....and that belief starts with the fans and they need to let that club know how insistent they are that aspirations are never allowed to slip, even during long fallow periods.
I don't know if this new stadium by the river will ever materialise, but the fact we can even contemplate it and it is an ongoing and real possibility is testament to the fact that we remain a "massive" football club
They used to talk of a "merciful veil" over the future ... I'm certainly not ITK & I can only base my opinion on the trend. Leicester can say hello till they're red in the face, the trend in my opinion is pretty obvious: the tide of history is leaving us behind. I happen to blame the various directors / owners over the years; others blame the Kaiser / Hitler / Kopites. There's a chance EFC won't finally change into the Miss Haversham of the P L. Who knows?
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Really understand where you're coming from and you're right, it is worrying that the years of boardroom mismanagement, lack of investment, utter indecision and then the other 'external' factors in which the aftermath/fallout from Heysel has to be taken into account... has left our club somewhat stood by the wayside whilst others grasped whatever nettles were in their way and flourished.
We can but hope that...
Ronald Koeman can turn things around on the pitch;
Steve Walsh can identify key new signings and actually sign them;
Farhad Moshiri stands true to his initial sentiment of "giving Everton all I can" or words to that effect;
he completes his takeover and really, really, really begins to turn things around within the fabric and commercial aspects of the club;
we get a state-of-the-art stadium on the waterfront some time in the not too overly distant future...
and that we, the fanbase can become re-energised and back to what we once were and are (only occasionally) these days - ultra loud and proud.
An ideal time to start would be to defeat Manure on Sunday while keeping a clean sheet
Really understand where you're coming from and you're right, it is worrying that the years of boardroom mismanagement, lack of investment, utter indecision and then the other 'external' factors in which the aftermath/fallout from Heysel has to be taken into account... has left our club somewhat stood by the wayside whilst others grasped whatever nettles were in their way and flourished.
We can but hope that...
Ronald Koeman can turn things around on the pitch;
Steve Walsh can identify key new signings and actually sign them;
Farhad Moshiri stands true to his initial sentiment of "giving Everton all I can" or words to that effect;
he completes his takeover and really, really, really begins to turn things around within the fabric and commercial aspects of the club;
we get a state-of-the-art stadium on the waterfront some time in the not too overly distant future...
and that we, the fanbase can become re-energised and back to what we once were and are (only occasionally) these days - ultra loud and proud.
An ideal time to start would be to defeat Manure on Sunday while keeping a clean sheet
A clean sheet.
The biggest disappointment for me right now is that clean sheets have become as elusive now as they were under Bobby.
I could at least put up with the lack of attacking ideas if the defence was near enough water tight.
Such a strategy almost paid dividends for Billy Bingham in 1975.
Flaming Carlisle
1966efc
Player Valuation: £20m
Really understand where you're coming from and you're right, it is worrying that the years of boardroom mismanagement, lack of investment, utter indecision and then the other 'external' factors in which the aftermath/fallout from Heysel has to be taken into account... has left our club somewhat stood by the wayside whilst others grasped whatever nettles were in their way and flourished.
We can but hope that...
Ronald Koeman can turn things around on the pitch;
Steve Walsh can identify key new signings and actually sign them;
Farhad Moshiri stands true to his initial sentiment of "giving Everton all I can" or words to that effect;
he completes his takeover and really, really, really begins to turn things around within the fabric and commercial aspects of the club;
we get a state-of-the-art stadium on the waterfront some time in the not too overly distant future...
and that we, the fanbase can become re-energised and back to what we once were and are (only occasionally) these days - ultra loud and proud.
An ideal time to start would be to defeat Manure on Sunday while keeping a clean sheet
Hope costs nothing so that's one thing EFC will buy by the bucket!
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
Great post mate +10I don't really know what your point is.
Before the 1990s, we had won more league titles than Manchester United.
They went a quarter of a century without winning the league after 1967.......they were still a "massive" club during that period.
Arsenal were mainly a struggling team when I was growing up in the 50s and 60s and before they won the title on that never to be forgotten night at Anfield in '89 had only been Champions once in near enough forty years, 1971.
But I always knew they ranked up there with EFC as a "massive" club.
Spurs on the other hand have only won the league twice.....the last time over fifty years ago.
No one would suggest they are not a massive club.
Even before the Sheik arrived at City, they were always a massive club in most people's eyes, despite being in the third division at the turn of the century.
Liverpool's last league title win is ancient history now.
In short, bagging titles alone does not make a club "massive".
Leicester City say hello
I agree with you that what makes a club "massive" is an intangible thing and indeed "hard to pin down".
But one definite component is a belief within that club that it is indeed a massive club.....and that belief starts with the fans and they need to let that club know how insistent they are that aspirations are never allowed to slip, even during long fallow periods.
I don't know if this new stadium by the river will ever materialise, but the fact we can even contemplate it and it is an ongoing and real possibility is testament to the fact that we remain a "massive" football club
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