6 + 2 Point Deductions

[arch stanton]

Andy Burnham on record there now, saying he believes Masters was dishonest to the Parliamentary Commission. Would have thought that was massive news, but not a sniff of it being reported yet.

any more on what AB said John?

 

[arch stanton]

You book the taxis. I'll send the escorts and pizzas.

*old school*

you wont find many ford escorts still on the road these days mate, may have to go for an astra

 

[Tel001]

I don’t think that applies in this context

Hopefully

 

[maccavennie]

@arch stanton watch this mate. From about 15 minutes onwards he starts discussing the Everton case.

 

[John from Bootle]

any more on what AB said John?

He said something along the lines of 'Masters told the PC that the Premier League weren't seeking to avoid independent regulation'. He said he'd 'had discussions with various political figures who say the Premier League were actively lobbying them ' He also alluded to being lobbied himself, which is why I assume he had absolutely no qualms about making that statement on a podcast.

 

[WestStandLower]

any more on what AB said John?

Burnham was interviewed on Accross the Park Podcast . I would recommend you listen to it.

 

[WestStandLower]

All that might be true, but you're absolutely miles away from challenging for titles again, imo of course. And as we know, that costs money in of itself.

There's also the small issue of the wage bill with no Champions League on the horizon.

The wage bill has been cut significantly the new signings it is claimed are paid far smaller base salaries but will be paid far more based on performance hence you are right there almost certainly won’t be CL next season.

In reality at this time I can’t see anyone other City winning the league that will change. We are certainly in transition I am sceptical about saying it’s a 5 year project but the new owners clearly don’t see the way forward doing the same things as have been down in the past.

One are that is clearly being addressed is commercial and it seems each week they announce another deal or partnership indeed only last week they published that there was now a partnership between the woman’s team and Skoda.

 

[John from Bootle]

The wage bill has been cut significantly the new signings it is claimed are paid far smaller base salaries but will be paid far more based on performance hence you are right there almost certainly won’t be CL next season.

In reality at this time I can’t see anyone other City winning the league that will change. We are certainly in transition I am sceptical about saying it’s a 5 year project but the new owners clearly don’t see the way forward doing the same things as have been down in the past.

One are that is clearly being addressed is commercial and it seems each week they announce another deal or partnership indeed only last week they published that there was now a partnership between the woman’s team and Skoda.

Fair enough.

Just all looks like a bit of a shambles to me, certainly in the transfer market. Genuinely don't understand why you spent all that money the way you did. I've said the same to many friends in real life: I really don't understand why you didn't just drop 200 million on Harry Kane, and not bother with a lot of the other signings, or go after a few cheaper options. I'd put good money on Chelsea challenging for the top 4 now, if you'd have done that.

 

[Gilbert..]

They think because of his background he is 100% on top of the PLs case, their evidence and he keeps banging on about the fact that such high powered individuals would have to have been involved what they are charged with couldn’t happen.

I was involved in finances be it more from an enforcement angle and believe me rich people get up to all sorts of things and so so often the number of people involved was often quite staggering and it’s more often than not that the little man is the one left hung out to dry

Yeah i think thats the angle he has been coming from this week in particular. That this goes a lot deeper than just city and their owners and therefore could be buried.
But im not really that interested in city. Ive just found him very aggressive towards Evertons situtation in the past week and i ask myself why. Lets face it the premier league concentrating on other clubs is good for city. And he hasnt been shy this week in highlighting that.

 

[Trimm Trabb]

PL introduced PSR to protect six clubs and here they are trying to destroying at least one club via their rules thats their to protect.

You couldn't make this crap up

Fixed

 

[canuckblue]

I would assume a second offense would be harsher than the first.

They would be charging us for two of the years already covered by the first penalty, and the current fiscal year isn't done. We can't get in the wayback machine and change things, so how is charging us again even remotely fair?

 

[JLW]

The thing that disgusts me most mate, is the impact on the City, Community and people. With no BMD there is no PSR difficulty - so why bother your hoop, investing in the City, providing for the community actually improving the PL brand and being a beacon on the International stage through the Euro etc. If we go down because of off the field matters that's real job losses at the club - peoples livelihoods, if the stadium stops that impacts the local economy and surrounding business's, it puts a hole in the whole waterfront development.

This just isnt an attack on Everton its an attack on the City, community and its people.

Spot on mate the people it will impact the most is the people who can do nothing about the current situation or have nothing to do with how weve got to this point.

Relegation impacts many people who are not multi millionaires within football clubs.

 

[RD2910]

Fixed

Four, they don't care about Chelsea or City.

 

[WestStandLower]

Fair enough.

Just all looks like a bit of a shambles to me, certainly in the transfer market. Genuinely don't understand why you spent all that money the way you did. I've said the same to many friends in real life: I really don't understand why you didn't just drop 200 million on Harry Kane, and not bother with a lot of the other signings, or go after a few cheaper options. I'd put good money on Chelsea challenging for the top 4 now, if you'd have done that.

It certainly appears confused, chaotic and un planned and yes I too scratch my head at times but the reality is for years we have been buying in players who had reached their ceiling and would have little sell on value and the funny part is player after player who were in their mid twenties had a decent season at another club we signed stunk the place out. Players like Barclay and Drinkwater to name just two.
Most of the signings have been bought in have been bought for their potential not their experience and that is something that they are lacking a few I had heard of prior to them signing others no. For instance ever heard of Kendry Paez

All clubs suffer injuries ours has been horrible particularly among some that would have made a difference players like Lavia, Nunkuku and Chukwuemeka for instance .

As for Kane not so sure Spurs would have sold him to us but he almost certainly would have wanted a5 year deal and whilst he clearly would deliver the rumours were he wanted wages that were unaffordable in England so it was surprising when Bayern. He would have made a difference of that there is no doubt

 

[ForeverEverton]

Rumours are there is loopholes everywhere and the Super Silk is going to run a train through these P&S rules.... They aren`t fit for purpose...

As a poster said earlier Burnham was on the Across the Park Podcast, I agree well worth a listen.