6 + 2 Point Deductions

Marius57 · February 29, 2024

trueblue84 said:
Isn't the meeting jus to get the clubs to agree to pay hush money to the EFL in the hope of avoiding external regulation?

Yes but they will talk about other things and it’s been widely reported that clubs have pushed to get PSR and relaxing it on the agenda.

Runub · February 29, 2024

trueblue84 said:
Isn't the meeting jus to get the clubs to agree to pay hush money to the EFL in the hope of avoiding external regulation?

I think that is the main business but Sky are reporting they will discuss PSR as well

Tony’s Carp · February 29, 2024

ToffeeTim said:
Yes it seems so, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense why. It's not like we have been spending excessively since 2022.

We can only assume that a reason is much increased interest costs on borrowings. And that clearly won't result in a sporting advantage, so we really need to start challenging that point, or we might never get out of this cycle.

Yeah it's difficult to see how we sleepwalked into breaching again when there were steps (another player sale for example) we could have taken.

I posted my theory up the thread yesterday, that maybe we loaded EXTRA costs onto 22/23 (we agreed compensation with Carlo around June 27), thinking we had wiggle room, then the outcome of the commission changed the numbers we thought we had.

Interest costs will be a factor, although you'd like to think we'd been more careful about labelling more recent borrowings as being stadium-related to swerve the FFP cost.

MikeH72 · February 29, 2024

Jeff Jones said:
Yerrano, but we get every match televised live or replay here and I loved it.

Fair enough. I can’t count that as one of my fond memories of Goodison, watching it on telly with artificial crowd noise pumped in personally lol

chicoazul · February 29, 2024

You’re getting better at controlling the piss.

Good.

Spadge Vernacular · February 29, 2024

chicoazul said:
You’re getting better at controlling the piss.

Good.

Give it time.

chicoazul · February 29, 2024

Spadge Vernacular said:
Give it time.

For my next trick I’m gonna introduce the notion that you’re you, a brilliantly individual human who takes their self worth from being you rather from a football badge and other biffs who happen to like that football badge too.

It could be quite a journey.

Spadge Vernacular · February 29, 2024

chicoazul said:
For my next trick I’m gonna introduce the notion that you’re you, a brilliantly individual human who takes their self worth from being you rather from a football badge and other biffs who happen to like that football badge too.

It could be quite a journey.

Thanks mate. I've always thought that I was me, and if I am being honest, a bit special.

As you suggest, deriving self worth from 11 fellas kicking a ball up and down a field is up there with being older than 12 and watching wrestling.

Once the second charge hits there'll be plenty of mums on laundry duty, of that I am sure.

mccole · February 29, 2024

chicoazul said:
You’re getting better at controlling the piss.

Good.

blulouie · February 29, 2024

Tony’s Carp said:
I think Ben will just have looked at the declared years, based on everything we know the 22/23 accounts will be much worse than the year before.

Who is Ben ?

marnie · February 29, 2024

blulouie said:
Who is Ben ?

Bobbles mate.

blulouie · February 29, 2024

marnie said:
Bobbles mate.

Ah...another nomark that knows nothing.

PeregrineT · February 29, 2024

Tony’s Carp said:
Yeah it's difficult to see how we sleepwalked into breaching again when there were steps (another player sale for example) we could have taken.

I posted my theory up the thread yesterday, that maybe we loaded EXTRA costs onto 22/23 (we agreed compensation with Carlo around June 27), thinking we had wiggle room, then the outcome of the commission changed the numbers we thought we had.

Interest costs will be a factor, although you'd like to think we'd been more careful about labelling more recent borrowings as being stadium-related to swerve the FFP cost.

That would definitely make the most sense to me. With our wage cutting and player sales profits its almost impossible to believe we breached based on normal costs, especially compared to the year that dropped off. Seems there MUST have been some special charge or something that wont be visible to us until the accounts come out.