6 + 2 Point Deductions

[jayden28]

We still have a second charge. So if we are less than 6 points ahead of Forest by the end of the season the league could still choose to put us down.

Forest will get the same deductions too I imagine

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Big fan of all this. If we wait until the end of the season then all the teams get assessed for points deductions and the league table gets rejigged will be like a whole new game.
Bit like transfer deadline day… but better.

 

[MikeH72]

Forest will get the same deductions too I imagine

If their breach is worse than ours then they’ll get more.

 

[Frenk]

Exactly this, but their fans seem to be very happy thinking the worst they can now get is 6.

And that’s because the narrative being put out is that our breach is all about overspending on players. The media have been disgraceful on this.

 

[Nymzee]

If we've breached and lost points that's the precedent.

Expect a second deduction and Forest to get one too.

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Exactly this, but their fans seem to be very happy thinking the worst they can now get is 6.

They know naff all lol I'm convinced that most of them aren't even aware that their breach is much worse than ours..

 

[GrandOldTeam]

And that’s because the narrative being put out is that our breach is all about overspending on players. The media have been disgraceful on this.

Even if that was true, £19.5m.

Anyone know what Forest are meant to be over?

 

[matty1878]

Because from initial reaction, this decision seems to reinforce the decision than any breach is punishable by points deduction, and that breaching is the key issue, not how much the breach is.

but if it’s a different breach for diff reasons then no

 

[NathDogg]

I have a terrible feeling there won’t be any further point deductions for anyone, as they’ve made such an arse of it this time. Just little old Everton getting stitched up by the usual suspects.

It could be another Prince Oumar diving for a pen punishment all over again.

 

[witchdoc187]

If their breach is worse than ours then they’ll get more.

You would hope just finishing above forest should keep us up taking into consideration Burnley and sheff United being down.

 

[Frenk]

Even if that was true, £19.5m.

Anyone know what Forest are meant to be over?

It is true.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I think they are sticking to their model of 6 points baseline, +1 point for every further 5 mil.

Our original PSR calc was saying that our losses were 109 mil, so that's less than 5 mil over the 105 breach. Their calc was 124 mi.

I imagine the appeal has basically just let us have that given the conflicting info of how to apply the stadium build interest.

If the only reason we are in breach for the 2nd charge is the stadium interest, there is a very slim chance there will be grounds to null and void the 2nd charge, but we'll see.

*disclaimer - everything I've just typed could well be wrong

My reading of this decision is that pretty much any breach will be punished by a points deduction (of some level).

i think it's potentially quite bad for us moving forward. I think they've set a precedent here today, and not a good one for us. I find it hard to see how Everton or Forest don't lose points.

 

[Marius57]

If City get just half their offences done, then it would be say 50 x 6 = 300 should send them into league 1 or 2. Will not happen though because they have money.

Couldn’t happen. Considering the PL punishments won’t apply to the EFL. So the PL could only relegate them to the Championship as they are separate bodies.

 

[matty1878]

We find out in April, I think the 4points been given back had became the "Norm" to what most had began to think over the weeks, so he may have guessed and added the 2nd part as a guess. we see. Douby the 2nd is scrapped at all, and wouldnt get your hopes up

im not but im looking at it as we’ve been done we was honest and our books or whatever is within means

 

[NathDogg]

Exactly this.

They have sullied any reputation this league has; blown the integrity of this entire campaign out of the water the way they hit us and affected many other teams in the process; jumped in with a draconian punishment to show they can self regulate when in fact this appeal outcome has shown their actions to be illegal.

We should sue the backsides off them.

What’s funny @Charlie Sweet cheeks?

Thought you would have been out celebrating by firebombing the liver building lid?