6 + 2 Point Deductions

[edge]

So you want our barrister to question the credentials and integrity of a senior silk, a judge and a former PL finance director.

Give me strength.

If he was any good he would question everything and use it to his advantage.

 

[PITA]

No idea, would only be a select few in the boys club who the Premier League would pick from.

Is that fair and are you happy with that?

 

[PITA]

The PL formula put forward by Masters was 6 points for breaching PSR and then 1 point for every £5m over the £105m. So we would have got 6+1+1+1=9.

If they had accepted both the Stadium interest + transfer levy as permissible PSR exclusions then it would have been 6+1+7.

Can you provide a reference because most people read the formula as 6 points plus 1 point for every £5m or part of over £105m. 6 + 1 +1 +1 + 1 = more than 9

 

[gwladysnight]

But I thought you said FFP didn't exist in 2011?

It didn't.

The argument though is that the Premier League allowed Spurs to capitalise Stadium losses before they got planning permission.

The thing is it is completely irrelevant because Spurs during that period were never close to breaching PSR rules. These figures are before any PSR deductions.

 

[MikeH72]

-247

Still allowed to post

 

[BlueandBald]

The PL formula put forward by Masters was 6 points for breaching PSR and then 1 point for every £5m over the £105m. So we would have got 6+1+1+1=9.

If they had accepted both the Stadium interest + transfer levy as permissible PSR exclusions then it would have been 6+1+7.

I think every club should have got a 10 point deduction for our crime. Isn't that how Heysel and the English ban worked? Ya horrible rat.

 

[Moomin]

Is that fair and are you happy with that?

It will be the same with the appeal panel. The majority of people from the Premier League Clique who have at some time worked for a premier league club.

 

[gwladysnight]

Can you provide a reference because most people read the formula as 6 points plus 1 point for every £5m or part of over £105m. 6 + 1 +1 +1 + 1 = more than 9

They adopt a fixed starting point of a deduction
of 6 points. There would be an increase from that starting point of one point
for every £5 million by which the club had exceeded the PSR threshold of
£105 million. Further adjustments could be made to reflect aggravating or
mitigating features. The rationale for this view is given in the evidence of Mr
Masters.

 

[kenada_blue]

They adopt a fixed starting point of a deduction
of 6 points. There would be an increase from that starting point of one point
for every £5 million by which the club had exceeded the PSR threshold of
£105 million. Further adjustments could be made to reflect aggravating or
mitigating features. The rationale for this view is given in the evidence of Mr
Masters.

Mr Masters

 

[MikeH72]

Mr Masters

Dear Mr Masters

 

[Iana]

It didn't.

The argument though is that the Premier League allowed Spurs to capitalise Stadium losses before they got planning permission.

The thing is it is completely irrelevant because Spurs during that period were never close to breaching PSR rules. These figures are before any PSR deductions.

It’s not irrelevant as each club must be treated in a consistent and equitable manner with regard to what is permissible to be excluded from PSR calculations.
Regardless of a club’s proximity to the PSR threshold the same policy must apply to all
clubs. If a club or clubs are allowed to deduct pre-planning costs from PSR prior to Everton’s case being heard then the same principle must be applied to us.

 

[HowardsWay]

They adopt a fixed starting point of a deduction
of 6 points. There would be an increase from that starting point of one point
for every £5 million by which the club had exceeded the PSR threshold of
£105 million. Further adjustments could be made to reflect aggravating or
mitigating features. The rationale for this view is given in the evidence of Mr
Masters.

The question is when did they adopt this policy? It looks an awful like they did it as a result of our case and that, frankly, is a mockery. Policies and penalties need to be properly thought through, voted on and documented before an event or series of events happens IMO. I know it's not a perfect world but this is the top league in the World and the Premier League are looking very incompetent here.

 

[PITA]

It will be the same with the appeal panel. The majority of people from the Premier League Clique who have at some time worked for a premier league club.

It's not really answering my question though, is it?

 

[jinkyali]

what’s that mean mate

It means he said one thing to the Independent commission and another to government today.

So he is lying and making it up as he goes along.

 

[PITA]

They adopt a fixed starting point of a deduction
of 6 points. There would be an increase from that starting point of one point
for every £5 million by which the club had exceeded the PSR threshold of
£105 million. Further adjustments could be made to reflect aggravating or
mitigating features. The rationale for this view is given in the evidence of Mr
Masters.

So you can't provide a reference then? You just chat wham and expect people to believe you.