4th Place - What's it going to take?

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They havn't got a prayer of finishing higher than 6th mate, we will gut them at Goodison, as well we know how well Moyes does first hand in pressure games like and Southampton away will be a loss as well

Arsenal have won 2 out of their last 7 , united have won 5 out of their last 7 , arsenal will finish 6th or 7th on current form.

Top 4 is ours to loose
 
Arsenal have won 2 out of their last 7 , united have won 5 out of their last 7 , arsenal will finish 6th or 7th on current form.

Top 4 is ours to loose

aye agreed, but cannot discount the difficulty of arsenals and united fixtures during that period, no chance united finish anywhere above 6th and aresenal will win at least 2-3 of their remaining games
 
Definitely still Arsenals to lose:

West Ham (H)
Hull (A)
Newcastle (H)
West Brom (H)
Norwich (A)

Really don't see Arsenal slipping up that badly even in their current form. Remember Arsenal have been doing this for the past 20 years, they always seem to find a way of grinding out results to get champions league.

Sorry for being a pessimist but champions league isn't a foregone conclusion.
 

Definitely still Arsenals to lose:

West Ham (H)
Hull (A)
Newcastle (H)
West Brom (H)
Norwich (A)

Really don't see Arsenal slipping up that badly even in their current form. Remember Arsenal have been doing this for the past 20 years, they always seem to find a way of grinding out results to get champions league.

Sorry for being a pessimist but champions league isn't a foregone conclusion.
Your wrong mate it's our to lose, we have 6 games to play, get 6 wins were 4th. Starting at Sunderland on Saturday.

Any game in this league is losable.
 
According to Red Cafe a lot of their posters reckon 4th place for them is now back on...

Yup seriously....

If all goes well in the next nine days and we beat Sunlun and Palace then they will be twelve points behind us when they come here.....and they will only have five games left.

They basically need to take maximum points in their last five games to have a chance to finish above us.

And they still have Arsenal to catch as well.
 
We win all our remaining games and we get 4th, we simply use the old age logic of 1 game at a time, treat each 1 like the most important game, it doesnt matter if we are playing Palace or City, theres 3 points on offer, we take them all, starting at Sunderland.
 
I feel that Arsenal need to, at the bare minimum, lose one and draw one out of their remaining fixtures for us to claim 4th. We were magnificent yesterday but remember its never easy with Everton.
 
For a few years we have been respected sort of as a team, now we are feared and that goes a long way against opposition. Every opponent we have left will be cracking their pants.
 

I'm more concerned about their CL run. I want them knocked out this week so there's no chance they'll be able to take 4th spot. Well unless it's Arsenal's place they take of course.

I'm torn between wanting them out in the qfs just so it's done with as a possibility and wanting them out in the sfs instead so we're not playing on easter sunday.
 
Goal difference is now in our favour. So unless they suddenly start scoring masses of goals we only need to end up with the same number of points as Arsenal.

So 5 wins and a draw gets us 4th even if Arsenal win all 5.

Then if Arsenal draw one, we can afford to draw two, and so on.

If Arsenal get 11 more points (win 3 and draw 2 - not unrealistic) then we would need 12 (3 wins and 3 draws, or 4 wins and two defeats).

Looks very much achievable to me. But any one weekend the odds could shift massively either way depending on results.
 

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