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Have never understood why so many people take it as a personal insult that a teenager turns out not to be good enough to start for a mid-table premier league side.

If only we could harness all the pain and anger, malice and sorrow, yearning, frustration and spite in this thread, then channel it to turning turbines, we'd have climate change sorted before the hour.

Haven't checked in in a while. Is he worse than Hitler, or nah?

The Hidden Imam!

Really need Sunderland to get promoted so we can start selling them our dross again

old, overrated, overpriced. swerve. i miss the days of bringing a knife to a gunfight... now we bring bazookas to knife fights, and still lose. or pay bazooka prices for kinves.

He's going to be fine.

Good riddance, though of course the next one will be worse.

Never missed Gareth Barry more than when watching Delph.

Still mostly useless.

Would really secure our position as the Premier League's Honorary MLS franchise.

Wondering now if they were ever actually on the pitch together? Always more a Niasse man myself, of the two.

Everton - the retirement home for those too decrepit even for the MLS

Puzzled by this too. By all accounts the Bayern players thought he had no clue what he was doing, no sense of tactics or how to organise a team, no interest in giving instructions on how to stop specific opponents. In a league he knows nothing about, it could be throwing gasoline on the fire

He really undermines those Turkish hairloss doctor ads all over the sideboards

For a long time, I thought the players' (apparent) support despite the results was an asset, and reason not to sack him despite our position in the table. But... the fact that they've not been leading the chorus of demands for something better might actually suggest much deeper rot than just...

Moyes... the tragedy of Sunderland, repeated as farce

People are still talking about 'signals of intent', after the all the money we've pissed around? How about a signal of competence, for a change.

Also the ones who'd pout the loudest had he signed someplace else

I can't believe we've been this dire, but are still only 6 points off 5th place. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of English football...