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Just listened to the post match presser. He messes about with a match winning defence to accommodate what looked to be an unfit Michael Keane, but he's confused why we defended well at Forest but not yesterday. Ridiculous

Kinnear said a top half finish and a cup run is expected, didn't he? Moyes was happy to sacrifice the LC so hopefully he's been told not to do the same here.

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Block 16? Ours wouldn't download. Mate emailed EFC yday and we was about to head to the Burnley box office at about 12.30 when we was emailed a link that did work

For our sins

By contorting, you must mean describing what happened?

He can't be that much of a relegation specialist, he took Sunderland down after Allardyce, Advocaat, Poyet, Di Canio, O'Neill, Steve Bruce and Sbragia all kept them up. No wonder they can't stand him if that lot saved them. I'm prob forgetting a few other numpties.

If we're not here to see our team win a trophy What's the point? You want us to make up the numbers to fill the pockets of millionaire players and billionaire owners?

They didn't get relegated because they won the cup though, another mute point. We was more than good enough to beat Fiorentina, and should have. They got knocked out by Rangers who had an inferior squad to us. Go watch the 1st leg and watch the stupid long ball tactics they they ate up all...

Someone needs to tell the RS to change their chant to "you haven't finished 5th, since 2014". Hit us where it hurts instead of mocking us over the lack of trophy nonsense

You would have to ask a Wigan fan that. I know I have fonder memories of winning the FA Cup than I do of finishing 5th or 6th though.

I'm more confused now. You'd rather us not win a cup, to get a higher place in the league to help us to compete for a cup? Look at the crap clubs that have won either domestic cup since we last won one. Even by law of averages we probably should have fluked one in 30 years, so I disagree there...

Should we as fans celebrate that over an FA Cup triumph? Should the players hold the cheque aloft on their lap of honour because they made the club an extra £500k? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make tbh mate. We're never going to win the prem but we have fans lording over a 6th...

Fair enough, still not year in and year out though, but the context of the discussion is Moyes achieved more than Royle. Imo an FA Cup win is success and as far as I'm aware we don't get a trophy for finishing 6th.

Year in year out? He got 5/6th the season we finished with our lowest points total ever? That's an interesting take, so is thinking winning the square route of fk all is better than winning the FA Cup. Didn't we only finish top 6 with him 3 times? Considering your username, I'd have thought...

Ok I will bite. Pease enlighten me what success Moyes has given us that beats winning the FA Cup?

He outperformed an FA cup winning manager? Put the Magnificent 7th dvd away mate

Fk them

Tifo's look ridiculous when UK fans try it. Leave the ultras stuff to the Europeans.

Uncle has just asked me to sort him one for Sunderland but it sold out 25 mins ago. So after 1 adult spare if anyone can help.