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How the hell do you see that? A right back out of position and Mirallas is not tracking back at all.

Just gonna politely point out a level of double standards here. Totally fabricated story by the sound of it. And sadly at the moment we're not in a position to keep calling the press out over stuff like this. Especially as there's a fair chance he will go. And I think most of our fans can see...

My dad saw Duncan Edwards and said he had all the skills and grace of people like Best and Cruyff had but was built like a brick outhouse. Think Edwards was a teenager at the time. Scary to wonder what he could have been but wish I'd seen him. Also would love to have been at Goodison to watch...

Really good post. I still believe we will see more expansive winning football over the next few seasons. Players confidence can turn round completely in a couple of games. I think you're mainly talking about desire though and I think when a season is fizzling out like this there have to be...

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A sentence ending in a conjunction was confusing enough, but maybe I should clarify. By saying 'not make head or tale' I was recognising what you were trying to do but gently chiding the weakness of the attempt. And also I'd rather you were just hostile on the whole than use pal in a passive...

Only as much as that has to do with mine

Can't make head or tale of your sarcasm there.

We can spend big, have a dash at the league for a season and then find ourselves near the foot with expensive deadwood that we can't offload and nobody coming through the ranks.

Or Newcastle

Yep. I can even imagine there's a general agreement in place between Moshiri, Bill about when Martinez moves on and how any potential manager fits in to the next stage.

Have to agree that if they act now it will be to appease fans. I can't see them suddenly loving Martinez but I also don't see things getting worse. This team is drained of confidence at the moment but still not been as bad as teams I've seen in the past. I think they'll have future managers in...

For a team already full of superstars that's pretty heavy for one season and it involved some high profile sales we can't replicate. He's spent more than any other premier league manager over last ten years. And the end result is that Chelsea are midtable same as us. The titles were great I'm...

I think there'll be someone new in charge before the start of the season after but I'm still convinced they'll wait till the dust settles and the mood around the club is more balanced. They'll certainly be sounding people out about the future but you'd hope they'd be doing that anyway

Nope. Feel exactly how I did few months ago

It's not one thing or the other though. Transfer record or not he spent a fortune at the time for Chelsea and was bankrolled again at Madrid. He clearly maximised potential at Porto but they weren't exactly in our current position. When faced with the challenge of overhauling Barca and with all...

Great post and I reckon a lot more people agree with this than it would seem on this thread. His ability to win things is very much about maximising potential for one season. And he won't go somewhere were they won't abandon any longer term plans just to suit him or are willing to throw money at...

Yep. Statements were exactly right in the circumstances. This is a really big danger at the moment whether people want Martinez out straightaway or not. We can't condemn everything about him and glamorise everything he isn't. Swinging from one thing to another is not the sign of a club with...

Just not sure were some of this is going to end up. I've noticed a few going on about how Liverpool turned it round midweek because of the atmosphere and then in same breath making it clear that kind of support is totally dependent on circumstances they approve of. Would a decent new manager...

Totally agree. The 'Jose is a winner' idea may sound tempting if people think that's the issue now but this guy is about nothing but his short term cv. Amazed that people think Martinez attitude to Baines was an issue but would support the appointment of a manager who has no respect for anyone...