New Everton Stadium - Hill Dickinson Stadium

[BullensRoad]

Great to see it confirmed that works on infrastructure and the new park on Central Docks are about to start this autumn.

Graham to start on Liverpool Central Docks' £71m foundations this month - Place North West

Peel Waters aims to deliver 2,350 homes at the 26-acre brownfield site once the builder has completed the necessary enabling work.

www.placenorthwest.co.uk

Why homes? This is a great opportunity for Liverpool to have some impressive office space etc for investment.

 

[Drunken McKenzie]

Why homes? This is a great opportunity for Liverpool to have some impressive office space etc for investment.

It's because there is insufficient demand for office space in Liverpool. If there were, we'd see more office developments in the business district. What we've seen instead is big office buildings like Silkhouse Court and the former Liverpool Echo/Merseyside County Council building converted from offices into apartments and hotel space.

 

[James Patrick]

Why homes? This is a great opportunity for Liverpool to have some impressive office space etc for investment.

The Council invested millions in preparing land on Pall Mall for exactly this and its still sitting empty so there's your answer.

 

[Blueeyedboy]

interesting, how did they get them for £170? maybe sniped them hours before the game? I will wait a bit, ta.

Late on + League cup game against Lower league opposition

 

[BullensRoad]

It's because there is insufficient demand for office space in Liverpool. If there were, we'd see more office developments in the business district. What we've seen instead is big office buildings like Silkhouse Court and the former Liverpool Echo/Merseyside County Council building converted from offices into apartments and hotel space.

Yeah so build them and they will come. Offer favourable rates and get the big talent to come.

The Council invested millions in preparing land on Pall Mall for exactly this and its still sitting empty so there's your answer.

That's not really an answer though is it? Whatever happened at Pall Mall is irrelevant.

I don't see why they could have offered world class office buildings with low fees / tax to entice a global organisation to make it their headquarters.

This is looking very similar to the bungalows they build in the city centre by china town and Russel street.

Very short sighted.

 

[trueblue84]

Why homes? This is a great opportunity for Liverpool to have some impressive office space etc for investment.

The industrial estate next to Costco is going to have the tallest building in Liverpool among other sky scrapers. Rumours are that Costco is moving as well so the land there can be redeveloped. There's plenty of space.

 

[Drunken McKenzie]

Yeah so build them and they will come. Offer favourable rates and get the big talent to come.




That's not really an answer though is it? Whatever happened at Pall Mall is irrelevant.

I don't see why they could have offered world class office buildings with low fees / tax to entice a global organisation to make it their headquarters.

This is looking very similar to the bungalows they build in the city centre by china town and Russel street.

Very short sighted.

But as already demonstrated the market is dictating a demand for housing and hotel space not office space. If there were demand for world class office space then the developers would have been led by the market and upgraded Silkhouse Court etc and the Pall Mall development would not have been stalled for years. "Build it and they will come" does not apply in this sort of property development; the market dictates it.

 

[ultra]

Went to the cup game last week and thought the staff at Sandhills were brilliant, queues were massive but we were there for 15 min max before getting on a train. Was ran very well.

Amazing how many people those trains can hold. There seemed too many of us in the cattle pen for the HL train, but they assured us we would all get on. Sure enough, after only a 15 minute wait (we were the 2nd train to arrive), we all got on. It was rammed, obviously, but that's only to be expected.

Very pleased so far.

 

[BullensRoad]

But as already demonstrated the market is dictating a demand for housing and hotel space not office space. If there were demand for world class office space then the developers would have been led by the market and upgraded Silkhouse Court etc and the Pall Mall development would not have been stalled for years. "Build it and they will come" does not apply in this sort of property development; the market dictates it.

Build houses elsewhere then. The city has been blighted by construction projects which don't finish.

Building world class office space on the waterfront is what I strongly believe is best.

Brand new open place offices would attract some global businesses. Even if it's a "wework" or something.

I'm not happy they want to build some cheap new builds in what is a very desirable location.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Yeah so build them and they will come. Offer favourable rates and get the big talent to come.




That's not really an answer though is it? Whatever happened at Pall Mall is irrelevant.

I don't see why they could have offered world class office buildings with low fees / tax to entice a global organisation to make it their headquarters.

This is looking very similar to the bungalows they build in the city centre by china town and Russel street.

Very short sighted.

No mate, What's short sighted is advocating ploughing money into a depressed commercial property market when modern work habits etc make office space less required than at any point in decades. It 100% doesn't work that way. A part of my job is looking at commercial property as part of personal investing and it is difficult to make money in that sector currently.

We have a lack of houses and, to an extent, certain sizes of apartments but any sort of office-space led development at the moment would be hugely risky.

 

[arch stanton]

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Maybe if it was JUST hospitality currently. But we would easily get another 5000+ normal match day fans I reckon.

om a stadium design and business point of view, 5000 seats at say £50 per seat (to keep the maths simple) brings in £250,000 per game and because these are readily available, people ar less likely to buy hospitality.
1000 seats in hospitality also brings in £250,000pg but retains a rarity factor of seats so those desperate to get to a game may have no option but to go hospitality. Then there is the added bonus of not having to build the extra 4000 seats that are the most expensive to build, bring in less, and may not always sell.

53000 is fine.

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

These houses could be the seeds of the community surrounding the new stadium much like it was at Goodison. The blue wave will engulf Liverpool.

 

[tommye]

Tonnes of empty office spaces in and around Liverpool.
Don't need any more office space.
People need homes, not empty office blocks.

 

[James Patrick]

These houses could be the seeds of the community surrounding the new stadium much like it was at Goodison. The blue wave will engulf Liverpool.

I wouldn't want to live by a footy ground tbh.
Imagine the inconvenience on a match day trying to get your car in and out.

 

[Lob]

Loved the stadium when i went last week. Amazing experience but come on guys, £7 for a sausage roll is seriously taking the wee wee. I can get a boneless banquet and a pint delivered to my table by a fit bird for a tenner in the spoons near me.