Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Eggsyblueskin]

Terrible idea to send him to a no mark league.

He does well there then so what its a no mark league it means nothing. He does poorly there then he's not good enough for a no mark league.

He should be going to the championship at the minimum.

This feels very much like the club has given up on him and aren't remotely intrested in developing him. But just willing to get whatever they can for him.

Very poor from the club imo

I agree with this ,apart from the Championship being preferable.
Away from the clutch of top clubs the Championship is overrated and is largely a league of ‘cloggers’.
The gap between the bulk of that league and the PL gets wider every season.
Newly promoted clubs have to expensively revamp their side or face the inevitable drop.
A European league would have been a better choice , as with Branthwaite.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Heard similar stories for Gough, Barry and Martyn to be fair, all done excellent jobs. At least with this player Moyes knows better than any Everton fan what we would actually be getting.

To be fair mate and I know the point you are making but, those players you mention weren’t signed for big money or big wages. Gough was a free transfer, Barry was on loan then cost us £2m to City when he signed a contract with us and Martyn was brought in for £800k.

 

[caliblue]

Its a few things tbh, most of our players average around 31 km/h which is not exactly the quickest tbh. However I don't think S&C/fitness at the club is up to much and I have long thought more could be done to improve that dept. Ultimately we have slow players but yes a change in mentality and game instructions could see us move things about a bit quicker, like I said its a few things.

Actual speed isn't really that relevant. We've all seen these lists our the quickest footballers, but to even come close to your max speed you'll need to run 20-30 meters in a straight line without the ball or opponents around you. That's why these lists often are dominated by central defenders. Most players don't need to make those kind of sprints.

It is a problem that when we set up to defend in 442, we are always 2v3 in the midfield. We're always outnumbered. We're always a step behind. It'll make the quickest players look slow. Pretty sure Barcelona's women team would make Everton's midfield look slow. That's not because their players run faster than ours.

Football isn't maths, but stats can't be ignored. We know that teams with less possession need to run more and have more sprints than the team that controls the match. To stay in your formation and move from side to side without getting hold of the ball, is exhausting. Both physically and mentally. While the opponents hardly break a sweat and keep their legs fresh. Good teams keep the ball and use it to break opponents. A team such as Everton would improve massively from having more control and possession in games. Stop chasing shadows.

And maybe most relevant is where the game is played. If you play a game with very little possession and defend deep, you're awfully far away from positions where you can create something for your own team. The vast majority of goals are scored within seconds from a team winning possession. Teams that are brave and defend with a high line will on average be 20-30 meters closer to goal when they win possession. Not strange that their players look so much quicker in transition.

Everton will need to have more control and more possession in matches. And they need the matches to be played further away from Pickford's goal. If they succeed with that, results will come.

And if pace was a problem in Everton's best starting eleven, Tarkowski would probably be the first one that needs to be replaced.

 

[Eggs]

Tantamount to throwing the lads career under a bus, Rangers are a mess right now and unless he starts regularly it’s pointless given the quality of the league.

Wasn’t there a championship side interested ?

….i recall links with Stoke but maybe not materialised. He might well struggle for games in the Championship, actually think Rangers is a good opportunity for him.

 

[Bebeto]

Terrible idea to send him to a no mark league.

He does well there then so what its a no mark league it means nothing. He does poorly there then he's not good enough for a no mark league.

He should be going to the championship at the minimum.

This feels very much like the club has given up on him and aren't remotely intrested in developing him. But just willing to get whatever they can for him.

Very poor from the club imo

I think it is about getting his confidence back...has barely played since joining us. He will play consistently there, build his fitness and getting his confidence back. Perhaps next year then if he does well he can go on another loan in a more competitive league.

 

[Bebeto]

Surely we must be after another striker? Going into a full season with only 2 strikers that would be crazy.

 

[Azza]

How come?

Because they spent near enough the whole of August sorting out Dibling.

 

[Toffeeslam]

….i recall links with Stoke but maybe not materialised. He might well struggle for games in the Championship, actually think Rangers is a good opportunity for him.

No with what’s happening there right now and Russell Martin

 

[Marius57]

Actual speed isn't really that relevant. We've all seen these lists our the quickest footballers, but to even come close to your max speed you'll need to run 20-30 meters in a straight line without the ball or opponents around you. That's why these lists often are dominated by central defenders. Most players don't need to make those kind of sprints.

It is a problem that when we set up to defend in 442, we are always 2v3 in the midfield. We're always outnumbered. We're always a step behind. It'll make the quickest players look slow. Pretty sure Barcelona's women team would make Everton's midfield look slow. That's not because their players run faster than ours.

Football isn't maths, but stats can't be ignored. We know that teams with less possession need to run more and have more sprints than the team that controls the match. To stay in your formation and move from side to side without getting hold of the ball, is exhausting. Both physically and mentally. While the opponents hardly break a sweat and keep their legs fresh. Good teams keep the ball and use it to break opponents. A team such as Everton would improve massively from having more control and possession in games. Stop chasing shadows.

And maybe most relevant is where the game is played. If you play a game with very little possession and defend deep, you're awfully far away from positions where you can create something for your own team. The vast majority of goals are scored within seconds from a team winning possession. Teams that are brave and defend with a high line will on average be 20-30 meters closer to goal when they win possession. Not strange that their players look so much quicker in transition.

Everton will need to have more control and more possession in matches. And they need the matches to be played further away from Pickford's goal. If they succeed with that, results will come.

And if pace was a problem in Everton's best starting eleven, Tarkowski would probably be the first one that needs to be replaced.

This whole speed things make me laugh.

30kmh is still like a 12s 100m (which is tough). For me, the more important factor is acceleration. Because it’s about getting up to speed quickly for that 20/30m sprint. And of as a DM, his positioning is good, he gets a head start/blocks it before getting into a footrace.

 

[MikeH72]

Because they spent near enough the whole of August sorting out Dibling.

And famously they can only work on one deal at a time, and must have a week off after every signing to rest and recover.

 

[Thomasc]

Do RB’s just not exist anymore?

Right backs?

What is thus witchcraft you speak of?

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Because they spent near enough the whole of August sorting out Dibling.

Would you genuinely be amazed if we signed someone on loan.

 

[MACCA75]

We can’t let Patterson go without another right back.

 

[Eggs]

No with what’s happening there right now and Russell Martin

….it’s high profile enough and looks like the best chance he’s got. If the option to buy is included then it indicates his time at Everton is over as long as he does enough to impress them. Fingers crossed he gets his permanent move.

 

[JohnJq]

Dibling, Barry and Aznou beg to differ.

None of those were actually developed by us. Possibly from now they may be. Only exceptions I can think of is Coleman, DCL, Lukaku to some extent and Branthwaite over the last 10+ years. Rooney, McMahon, Robinson, Lookman, Kean, Nkounkou, Vlasic all left to develop better elsewhere.