2025/26 Harrison Armstrong

[Zatara]

I think there is a lot of doubt about him going out on loan.

We are low on numbers in midfield and he is technically excellent and has high devevelopment potential but regardless he has a lot to offer right now

Low on numbers in midfield?

 

[Aries]

 

[dublinbluenose]

Ideally he should go our on loan for another year in the championship or possibly Europe, on the tacit acknowledgement he'll be starting in our midfield next season.

If he doesn't go out on loan he's gonna need lots of minutes off the bench. Himself and Tim Iroegbunam are both still too inexperienced to both be in our midfield together.

 

[Jeff Jones]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Armstrong will turn out to be a better ( impossible to measure) and more valuable footballer than Tyler Dibling.

This young man has absolutely everything to become a superstar midfielder.

Which makes me wonder. They are of a similar age, but one cost 42 million and you'd think would be straight into the senior squad, and Armstrong, who even now is enormously talented is being.considered to being sent out on loan to help him develop. What's the difference?

 

[jceverton]

Which makes me wonder. They are of a similar age, but one cost 42 million and you'd think would be straight into the senior squad, and Armstrong, who even now is enormously talented is being.considered to being sent out on loan to help him develop. What's the difference?

Boils down to the manager's mindset in my opinion. If say Klopp was in charge of a team and had Harrison Armstrong available there's no doubt in my mind that he would bring him through into the first team a lot quicker than Moyes. Right now if the lad wants to fully develop he needs games, which I don't think we will give him, so get him out on loan for the season.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I'm not convinced a loan would be as beneficial as last year. He won't play regularly, but we have some better players now for him to train alongside. He won't get that in the championship and I also think he's good enough he will find minutes on the pitch.

 

[jceverton]

All about how many minutes he will get hd he stays, if we can overall get him around the 1000 mark this season then he should stay - with Grealish and a few others we now have he will benefit hugely just training with that quality - as long as he does get those minutes too.

I would say that's a massive IF with Moyes. Personally I don't think that's going to happen, so loan him out. You can already see how much he benefited from going out to Derby. I'd send him back there.

 

[jceverton]

Problem with Armstrong is simple, right now we don't know exactly what position he will develop into, a good problem to have, but also one we need to figure out. We send him on loan then it's at the decision of some lower league manager where he plays this season - and that may not be where we'd like development wise.

Still remember Warnock using Ross on the wing for example - a loan that would have done nothing but harm his development in truth.

Keep him in house - if we do loan don't go down the championship route, he's had a season there already, if the lads mentally ready then let him go Holland or Germany for a season instead - it did Jarrod no harm.

To be fair you are taling about the most brain dead loan i've ever seen by Everton and Moyes!

 

[Lapeno77]

If he goes on loan, has to be Europe. Germany perhaps, somewhere he can learn in an environment and with a playing style similar to the PL.

Don't think the Championship or Scotland would test him enough to develop.

 

[blueloon]

I remember this coming up a while back that he was training with Lee Molyneux in the close season. He was the one Gordon went to a few years ago , and was highly spoken of. If , as it seems, Armstrong has got the same determination and mindset to improve himself as Gordon has then that’s a huge plus point. By comparison, in his last u18 year Gordon was struggling to convince David Unsworth he could play u21s football, Armstrong was playing Championship football . In fairness to Gordon I fault Unsworth in delaying his development, and am happy now that Armstrong hasn’t been held back in the same way.

 

[Eggs]

….maybe it’ll depend on who might still come in and where Armstrong sits in the pecking order with Iroegbunam.

 

[Whatson]

He was excellent last night. Should be above Tim in pecking order. I’d be keeping him and getting him more minutes as the season develops.

A lot of promise. Seems to really have the ‘footballing’ brain.

 

[Ryan Baker]

Loaned to boro for the season, after we buy hackney

 

[Joey66]

Lets not get carried away, like we always do.
He grew into the game….but he did not rip them apart and put on some wc level performance.

I really really like him btw, but we need to calm down. He played against a Division 3 team….some of them players are closer to semi-pro, than prem level.

No wait they are all Professional players even the National league have all professional teams - I watched semi pro league players thinking he could play in Division one or even the Championship league - I spoke to one of our best defenders in the old Unibond league - he had been approached many times by professional teams - he turned them down - he was then on £80 per week in the 1990s - he had a high paid job permanent as a surveyor = good steady high income - he told me - not worth it - as no guarantee of a massive income in the lower league to give his steady job for - too much to gamble - he just treated it as a well paid hobby - in a FA CUP game round 2 he marked a league player out of the game their big signing - the professional club were all over him like a rash after the game - the wages were very good , but too much of a gamble ! for his future...

I watched Barry Hales of Stevenage - He made it in the prem with Fulham - he scored against us - there have been a few Vardy etc but you can count them on one hand who take the chance to give up their career in a well paid job -

Even the league of Wales have professional teams - We need to build a young fast side with only a bit of experience players in it - shipping good prospects out on loan in leagues were the referring is poorer - they are liable to get bad injuries - Harrison Armstrong would benefit a season around the team on the bench & cameo roles for us - than to be farmed out again - if we get injuries he is a good back up IMO!

 

[Telford-Feb-85]

That pass to Ilman. Absolutely first class. Needs to be around the squad, getting minutes, learning from the likes of Jack and learning how to be a top pro to go with his undoubted talent.