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Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

Saint Domingo said:
I’m not a massive stats fan, instead I just compare relative quality and my opinion on it.

I don’t think Ndiaye is at the level that prime Pienaar was for us (a comparable player) and Pienaar was only at the level to play in what was a Europa league level tema at the time.

None of City Liverpool Arsenal or Chelsea would buy Ndiaye from us. They’d take Pickford or Branthwaite though, Grealish also played for them. That’s the difference in quality I’m talking about. He’s a good playmaker but he’s not a CL level playmaker, perhaps not even Europa league level. He’s been a good player in bottom half PL teams.
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None of City, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea would have bought Pienaar either. The only thing Ndiaye lacks is a full back like Baines behind him. He's already showing a clear pair of heels to Pienaar with his goals. Would i swap him for Piennaar at his peak. No chance.
 

GrandOldTeam said:
Anyone reckon we'll see any sales?

Wouldn't be surprised to see Beto or McNeil leave if a decent offer comes in.
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Unlikely I reckon...

Caveat - as with all players. Offer comes that's too good you take it (provided we've already got someone lined up - and they'll say yes).

Plus, we're only now starting to get the squad numbers up. Selling without a guaranteed replacement would be foolish and counter productive to what we've done so far.

Do agree that a striker with different skill sets and experience would be beneficial (mitrovic, Toney)

Generally, January is a different story IMO. Still in financial year. And, Beto and McNeil and Alcaraz will have seen where they're at regarding starts. Reckon we could see more movement there.

Concentrate on the "musts" in the here and now. DM and RB. Get them in and then start planning again (when we're top 8 in Jan).

Everton wasn't built in a day.
 
hetion said:
Just to make the case for Hackney, because I still think he'd be a fantastic development signing if we have space for one alongside a proper defensive 6 - here's some more high-level stats on him:

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The things that obviously stand out are a) the Deep Progressions (that's passes and carries into the final third - i.e. moving the ball into attacking areas) and b) Dribble & Carry OBV (that's essentially how much do his dribbles make his team more likely to score and the opposing team less likely to score). He is BANANAS good at both for a young player.

The other thing is that he is defensively pretty mid - tackles and interceptions, how much he gets dribbled past and how much value his defensive actions add are all pretty average at Championship level. This is understandably what is giving prem clubs pause. BUT - the other thing that stands out to me here is is possession-adjusted pressures. He has a hugely high work-rate defensively. This is probably what leads him to be out of position a lot, maybe a bit of a headless chicken defensively. I'd argue that defensive positioning is probably the single thing you could be most confident about coaching a player coming into their early/mid-30s, and he's got the athleticism and work-rate to get into the right places, he just needs to be taught where those right places are.

If you can coach him to be even just Premier League average with his defensive positioning, rather than Championship average, then you've got a really good Prem midfielder for cheap.

Anyway that's my rant, I hope we have 15-20m left over to get him in and train him up.
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If only all the rants here were so well thought through....😉

Still not sure myself he's what we need now.🤔
 

Milkman said:
Deadline day loan for Dani Ceballos, that's what my nostrils are telling me. Whether he'd be a good signing or not, my nostrils never let me down.
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MisterJ said:
Everyone has a price, it's just a question of can we get replacements in before the window closes
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The 'can we' bit for once won't be all down to the ££s available like it has been for us, it will be more down to the anount of groundwork done in the days leading up to deadline day if we are leaving it till the 1st to do any more deals. If we are also keeping our cards close to our chest, but players have said 'yes' to us in principle, we may start getting dripfed info (through a day I absolutely detest as a thing) rather than right at the end koser to 7pm, unless we are going for winning a TDD which I cannot see tbf with majority of our most important business done (yep I know DM & RB still priority all told)
 
RomanReigns said:
I’d be fine with selling Beto and bringing in Vardy on a free for the season
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I very much would not be fine with this, but I respect your opinion on the matter. I would also not be shocked if it happened to be honest.

Don’t want any of it though, think we need better than current Vardy if we’re trading in Beto. Maybe Vardy 5-10 years ago and minus the horrible personality (in my opinion)
 
jceverton said:
None of City, Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea would have bought Pienaar either. The only thing Ndiaye lacks is a full back like Baines behind him. He's already showing a clear pair of heels to Pienaar with his goals. Would i swap him for Piennaar at his peak. No chance.
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That’s the point I was making. In my opinion he’s not as good as Pienaar used to be and even Pienaar wasn’t good enough to be wanted by the top clubs. I don’t think Ndiaye will be either. I’d take a prime Pienaar over Ndiaye any day of the week regardless of who is playing at full back but it doesn’t mean Ndiaye isn’t a good player.
 

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