Confirmed Signing Tyler Dibling

[HKContractDave]

….Mike Trebilcock & Nigel Martyn from Cornwall

Of course how can I forget about Martyn

 

[blulouie]

Sounds to me like we overplayed our hand a bit and made the decision to sell earlier than we'd made out. Think it's a pretty good deal all round really (and around the price I was expecting pre summer) but the top brass look a bit silly dragging it out for so long imo.

Hopefully he does well and we'll get another chunk of money in a couple years time. Be interesting to see how he develops and hopefully not too much pressure is put on the lad.

Think the fact you have Grealish will help him immensely. Not only are they very similar players in style but teams won't be able to simply crowd Dibling with 2/3 players as soon as he gets the ball as it'd give Grealish loads of space. Whereas with us teams were comfortable doing that as our other attacking players were so poor.

And then we will have our little magician Ndiaye to wreak havoc.
The kid will learn a lot from them 2.

 

[Seathestars]

….Mike Trebilcock & Nigel Martyn from Cornwall

That's not Devon
Cornwall make better pasties, Devon make better Scones, that's the difference

 

[Drico]

Stats from last year

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Likes to hug a touchline. Excellent. I might really warm to this boy.

Thinking about it now, though I was a "goalkeeper" in the loosest sense, my favourite players were nearly always wingers - or wingers, originally, at least: Rummenigge, Luis Figo...

Always loved a winger from Tricky Trev to Kanchelskis.

One thing they always had beyond fantastic technical ability was...brain.

I'll be watching this kid with interest in ways I wouldn't be watching, say, Tomas Soucek.

 

[Toffeeslam]

Its the Anthony Gordon enigma.

I never met an evertonian saying Gordon was the new Rooney or anything mate.

We got a good deal with him as I don’t think he has increased in value. The saints were saying he was there best academy project in 50 odd years

 

[Drico]

Its the Anthony Gordon enigma.

Nah, not for me.

I never rated Gordon and have seen nothing in him since his move to regret selling him for the money we got for him.

Granted, he played in a grim time for our club, and he's not without talent, but his attitude was as much a disgrace then as it was last night when he should have matured.

Well rid.

 

[Neiler]

I never met an evertonian saying Gordon was the new Rooney or anything mate.

We got a good deal with him as I don’t think he has increased in value. The saints were saying he was there best academy project in 50 odd years

I dont know mate - they had Bale, Walcott, JWP and Le Tissier there of the top of my head i don think a Saints fan would say it really with a straight face.

Disagree on Gordon and always will mate, hes an excellent player and proved it since he left, we developed that someone else got the benefit of and if you were to buy him now you are talking £80 mill, Newcastle wouldnt sell him for less...it wouldnt be worth his while.

But you will get that about Gordon on here, people will say hes rubbish and we got a brilliant deal, when we didn't - same with Southampton and Dibling.

 

[LostLegend]

The saints were saying he was there best academy project in 50 odd years

That list includes Alan Shearer, Matt Le Tissier, Gareth Bale as well as Theo Walcott.

That’s mad praise if they are being in any way serious with that comment.

 

[Neiler]

Nah, not for me.

I never rated Gordon and have seen nothing in him since his move to regret selling him for the money we got for him.

Granted, he played in a grim time for our club, and he's not without talent, but his attitude was as much a disgrace then as it was last night when he should have matured.

Well rid.

He is a Ted to be fair, but hes a good player.

 

[Swagger]

I dont know mate - they had Bale, Walcott, JWP and Le Tissier there i don think a Sanits fan would say it really with a straight face.

Disagree on Gordon and always will mate, hes an excellent player and proved it since he left, we developed that someone else got the benefit of and if you were to buy him now you are talking £80 mill, Newcastle wouldnt sell him for less...it wouldnt be worth his while.

But you will get that about Gordon on here, people will say hes rubbish and we got a brilliant deal, when we didn't - same with Southampton and Dibling.

In what way is Gordon an excellent player though?

I don't think he's rubbish. I think he's very good at pressing and running around. He's pretty good at beating a man and delivering a cross. He's fairly quick. He is excellent at winning spawny penalties at getting a foot to the ball whilst behind a defender who then hits his foot when attempting to clear the ball. They shouldn't even be penalties any way but they seem to be fair game and he excels st this type of cheap artful dodger type move. That's about it.

Negatives - he is poor in the air often misses regulation headers to score. He is poor at finishing and he has that Raheem Sterling deficiency of not being able to strike a ball using his laces so all of his shots are essentially firm sidefoots. He isn't one to regularly deliver a killer pass. He has shown that he's hopeless as a centre forward and that he can only play wide so he lacks versatility. He's a hot head who has been needlessly sent off on several occasions.

Is that really worth £80 million?

I consider him to be a very effective athlete but not an excellent footballer.

I think the £45-50 million Everton received was good business at the time. He has improved but I argue he's now worth in the region of £60-70 million (probably in line with transfer inflation) given that's the approximate valuation on Gibbs-Whyte who is a much better footballer.

 

[Toffeeslam]

That list includes Alan Shearer, Matt Le Tissier, Gareth Bale as well as Theo Walcott.

That’s mad praise if they are being in any way serious with that comment.

Pinch of salt and hyperbole mate the best in since Le Tiss did get my attention.

 

[Toffeeslam]

I dont know mate - they had Bale, Walcott, JWP and Le Tissier there of the top of my head i don think a Saints fan would say it really with a straight face.

Disagree on Gordon and always will mate, hes an excellent player and proved it since he left, we developed that someone else got the benefit of and if you were to buy him now you are talking £80 mill, Newcastle wouldnt sell him for less...it wouldnt be worth his while.

But you will get that about Gordon on here, people will say hes rubbish and we got a brilliant deal, when we didn't - same with Southampton and Dibling.

Let’s agree to disagree as I wasn’t convinced by Gordon and still not. Don’t get me wrong he is a good player even when with us but i think is overrated.

Like I said i think we did well on him…..was much more gutted when Rooney left

 

[Harryflashman]

Saints fans have gone from “the best player they had seen since Matt Le Tissier “ to “he isn’t that good anyway” which is a bit strange.

Fairly standard football fan behaviour surely ?

 

[Harryflashman]

That list includes Alan Shearer, Matt Le Tissier, Gareth Bale as well as Theo Walcott.

That’s mad praise if they are being in any way serious with that comment.

Said earlier in the thread I was told that a few weeks ago Barry Horne was apparently saying he’d been told this very fact . That dibling was the most talented youngster the academy staff had seen .

 

[Neiler]

In what way is Gordon an excellent player though?

I don't think he's rubbish. I think he's excellent at pressing and running around. He's pretty good at beating a man and delivering a cross. He's fairly quick. He is excellent at winning spawny penalties at getting a foot yo yhe ball whilst behind a defender who then hits his foot when attempting to clear the ball. They shouldn't even be penalties any way but they seem to be fair game and he excels st yhid type of cheap artful dodger type move. That's about it.

Negatives - he is poor in the air often misses regulation headers to score. He is poor at finishing and he has that Raheem Sterling deficiency of not being able to strike a ball using his laces so all of his shots are essentially firm sidefoots. He isn't one to regularly deliver a killer pass. He has shown that he's hopeless as a centre forward and that he can only play wide so he lacks versatility. He's a hot head who has been needlessly sent off on several occasions.

Is that really worth £80 million?

I consider him to be a very effective athletic but not an excellent footballer.

I think the £45-50 million Everton received was good business at the time. He has improved but I argue he's worth in the region of £60-70 million (probably in line with transfer inflation) given that's the approximate valuation on Gibbs-Whyte who is a much better footballer.

In that in 12 months of leaving here he scored double digits in PL goals and assists ++, played in The CL, won the Under 21 European Championship and voted plyer of that torment, then called up for the senior international team - within 12 months.

It was good business in the same way it was good business for Southampton to sell Dibling, they were forced to sell their best player by being below in the food chain and to mitigate mismanagement. Hes thrived in a different environment.

On the deal itself what good was it - the money disappeared into a back home on nothing ness - we never got our striker that Jan and its taken us until to replace him.

People want to believe hes awful, that we got a brilliant deal, when really he was plucked away from here on Newcastle whim because of our own mismanagement and he thrived with months of leaving here.

Hs worth £80 million, because Newcastle payed £40 - why would they sell him for the same or less, if they want to sell him at all. Same as we wont with Branthwaite or Dibling when the time comes.

I never know why people comfort themselves around selling him being a brilliant deal - when the club was being run by clowns and claelty being mismanaged - is this th eonw peice they got right!