2025/26 David Moyes


Nymzee said:
One thing I did like him saying today was that we definitely do have money to spend.

If the window shuts and we haven't spent any more then we know any PSR/low funds related PR bull the club might try spin is nonsense.
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Imagine if he came out and just said a load of nonsense platitudes like ‘the market is really difficult’ ‘everyone is working really hard 24/7’ ‘we are doing all we can’ ‘PSR makes things difficult’ etc etc
This place would explode!

Instead he’s basically said ‘everybody relax. We have money, we will spend the money. We might not get quite the elite players we wanted but we’re going to improve the squad in the next ten days don’t worry’
 
Drico said:
That goes without saying.

But, in the end, trophies are what it's about. You look to incrementally improve to the point where winning trophies becomes likely. Look at Newcastle under Eddie Howe. But the idea that a manager needs 11 years to then win a trophy is for the birds. Moyes, to his credit, didn't need too long at West Ham. Glasner at Palace did it immediately.

None of this should be beyond a properly-functioning Everton.
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That’s a load of crap. What’s the point of the sport if it’s all about trophies? You may as well shut down 95% of the clubs on the planet.
 
windymiller said:
Man, you really are a Moyes fanboy. You even sound like him. "Don't aim too high", "Don't aspire to win anything", "just surviving is good enough". What a tedious existence.
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I didn't want to say this out of politeness because JobfortheMoyes has always been pleasant to me. But it did cross my mind that perhaps the difference between some Moyes fans and those who are more skeptical is that our expectations/demands of the club are different.

I just don't see the Moyes-Kenwright years as anything other than Bill's managed decline being executed to near perfection. Others, understandably, see that era as halcyon given the chaos that followed. It's just that I don't think 2002-2013 versus 2013-2025 is the choice here...
 

Drico said:
Yes, but the overall average is less than two years. That's the reality.

I'd love us to have a manager for 10 years - but only one who wins trophies merits that longevity. The Moyes-Kenwright longevity can be looked on as an indictment of our unseriousness as a football club as anything else.
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how's the seriousness and longevity at... leicester, wigan, portsmouth, birmingham...

Stuff this point, I have another.

www.thefa.com

FA Cup Finals

The results from every FA Cup Final since 1872, as well as venue records, most wins and most appearances...
www.thefa.com www.thefa.com

What a mickey mouse outfit, for all the money in the game they can't even be bothered updating their website properly.

"2009: Chelsea 2-1 Everton
The fastest goal ever scored in a Final was by Louis Saha, who netted after just 25 seconds against Chelsea."

But, İlkay Gündoğan scored in the 2023 final vs man utd in 12 seconds.

How can these people be left to tend and care for the game and it's core fabric.

Shambles!
 
I’ve not actually heard him speak for years I’d say, and haven’t actually read any quotes. Also I know all managers talk nonsense at these pressers. But reading that he’s said we have to go for lower quality players just makes me doubly impatient until he moves on. It’s too much of a sense of been here done this, when we should be enjoying a fresh start
 

JobForTheMoyes said:
That’s a load of crap. What’s the point of the sport if it’s all about trophies? You may as well shut down 95% of the clubs on the planet.
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Football really is all about the camaraderie of the fans and enjoying those moments where you look back on with nostalgia in the years ahead. For example the Danish Dynamite side of the 80s, they won nothing with regards trophies but they won the heart of football fans all over the globe
 
ToffeeTim said:
Moyes is the one trying to increase standards across the club, not lower them

There haven't been proper standards at Everton for years. We aimed for 17th place.
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Knives to a gunfight, the peoples club, Everton shouldn't hold players back - at united, agreeing to the united job and continuing to manage us after, sorry mate Moyes always has been Moyes first whatever suits that the most important factor
 
Drico said:
Ha ha. I spoke too soon...

Ah well.
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I didn’t insult you - I said you were talking crap :D :pint2:

I just want a team that fights, is always trying to be competitive and which is trying to raise the levels.

Fact is modern football is purely down to money and we cannot compete as it’s such an uneven playing field. But you can gradually get better and challenge if you are patient, a much undervalued quality nowadays.
 
JobForTheMoyes said:
That’s a load of crap. What’s the point of the sport if it’s all about trophies? You may as well shut down 95% of the clubs on the planet.
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For a club our size, it should be a raison d'etre. 95% of the clubs on the planet are small. We are in the top 5%. For the 95%, winning may be unrealistic (not that it stops some of them from trying, or indeed succeeding). For us, our standards should be in line with the top 5% as befits our size. Or else settle for mediocrity.
 
Drico said:
For a club our size, it should be a raison d'etre. 95% of the clubs on the planet are small. We are in the top 5%. For the 95%, winning may be unrealistic (not that it stops some of them from trying, or indeed succeeding). For us, our standards should be in line with the top 5% as befits our size. Or else settle for mediocrity.
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Yeah - it’s like being in the top five percent in the U.S. and trying to compete with the vastly richer one percenters!
 

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