2025/26 David Moyes

[windymiller]

Nah. Wages only attract the wrong sort. Most managers with ambition would rather get paid less to work with a better squad.

Yep, all the best managers are on pitiful wages. Pep's on minimum wage, he has to top up with Universal Credit to pay his rent.
What a load of nonsense. Name me one decent manager who isn't on top banana.

 

[Blue Smoke]

Iraola probably saw enough of us in America to stay well clear.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Yep, all the best managers are on pitiful wages. Pep's on minimum wage, he has to top up with Universal Credit to pay his rent.
What a load of nonsense. Name me one decent manager who isn't on top banana.

Yeah, but the top managers get paid the top dollar to manage the top players. Most ambitious managers want to move up as they know the money will follow success.

Jump just for money and you are at risk of ruining your reputation as you are working with substandard tools.

 

[windymiller]

Yeah, but the top managers get paid the top dollar to manage the top players. Most ambitious managers want to move up as they know the money will follow success.

Jump just for money and you are at risk of ruining your reputation as you are working with substandard tools.

In which case, why would anyone manage Everton?

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

In which case, why would anyone manage Everton?

Managers who are damaged goods or who have limited ceilings will manage Everton.

Ancelotti only came as he’d been given the bullet at Napoli and jumped at the first opportunity.

For Moyes, this is as good as he’s going to get. He’s old, so has no chance of reaching the level of reputation he had when he left the first time. But he’s still a good manager and will see plenty here to work with and to try and build up again toward the top of the table.

And Moyes is a great example of what can happen if you take the wrong job. Ambitious managers are very careful about what jobs they will take.

 

[windymiller]

Managers who are damaged goods or who have limited ceilings will manage Everton.

Ancelotti only came as he’d been given the bullet at Napoli and jumped at the first opportunity.

For Moyes, this is as good as he’s going to get. He’s old, so has no chance of reaching the level of reputation he had when he left the first time. But he’s still a good manager and will see plenty here to work with and to try and build up again toward the top of the table.

And Moyes is a great example of what can happen if you take the wrong job. Ambitious managers are very careful about what jobs they will take.

Much better than the mercenaries you decried in your OP. I'd take a spin on the mercenaries, frankly.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Nah. Wages only attract the wrong sort. Most managers with ambition would rather get paid less to work with a better squad.

We already have the ‘wrong sort ‘
( entirely subjective on my part of course )

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Managers who are damaged goods or who have limited ceilings will manage Everton.

Ancelotti only came as he’d been given the bullet at Napoli and jumped at the first opportunity.

For Moyes, this is as good as he’s going to get. He’s old, so has no chance of reaching the level of reputation he had when he left the first time. But he’s still a good manager and will see plenty here to work with and to try and build up again toward the top of the table.

And Moyes is a great example of what can happen if you take the wrong job. Ambitious managers are very careful about what jobs they will take.

It was only the wrong job because he wasn’t good enough .
But he believed in himself to take it .
Which is the same for most managers , they will believe they can transform the 30year old clown show that is Everton.
They will fail obviously.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

It was only the wrong job because he wasn’t good enough .
But he believed in himself to take it .
Which is the same for most managers , they will believe they can transform the 30year old clown show that is Everton.
They will fail obviously.

Partly, but the biggest issue they had was their squad was old and ready to fall off a cliff.

My hope is Moyes can put some structure in place, maybe win a cup, and then let someone young who can carry it forward take over. Instill a culture with higher standards so that a young ambitious manager will see us as a worthy project.

 

[BackRow PE6]

Partly, but the biggest issue they had was their squad was old and ready to fall off a cliff.

My hope is Moyes can put some structure in place, maybe win a cup, and then let someone young who can carry it forward take over. Instill a culture with higher standards so that a young ambitious manager will see us as a worthy project.

This is what I see his remit be from TFG. He wants to deliver more but they want him to stabilise the footballing side whilst their structure beds in and he will eventually be replaced by someone to take us forward, working within the structure. This a big transition season for us. I’m happy with all of this

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Partly, but the biggest issue they had was their squad was old and ready to fall off a cliff.

My hope is Moyes can put some structure in place, maybe win a cup, and then let someone young who can carry it forward take over. Instill a culture with higher standards so that a young ambitious manager will see us as a worthy project.

I reflect your hope .
And I have no doubt that Moyes for all my dislike of him, ( and for the first six seasons I was a relatively happy with him ), he will re- establish us as a solid mid table club , perhaps even snag a European place .
My problem is that I don’t enjoy his tactical style and moreover I don’t believe he is capable of propelling us any higher , and when you get that new young manager the first thing he will have to do is dismantle everything and start again .
I think as a club it would have been preferable to start our journey firmly in the direction we won’t to go and not take soulless detours into dead end football.
But we are were we are .

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

This is what I see his remit be from TFG. He wants to deliver more but they want him to stabilise the footballing side whilst their structure beds in and he will eventually be replaced by someone to take us forward, working within the structure. This a big transition season for us. I’m happy with all of this

Their structure stinks

 

[BackRow PE6]

Their structure stinks

It’s not fully up and running yet so hard to judge

 

[Zatara]

This is what I see his remit be from TFG. He wants to deliver more but they want him to stabilise the footballing side whilst their structure beds in and he will eventually be replaced by someone to take us forward, working within the structure. This a big transition season for us. I’m happy with all of this

To allow him to blow £100mil+ ?

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

It’s not fully up and running yet so hard to judge

I know ,
Imagine entering the ‘ most important and challenging period for the club ‘ and dismantling the existing structure to replace it with an entirely new and incomplete one .
Not the the most inspiring or intelligent example of forward planning .
Some would call it rank amateur.
It has been a predictably dysfunctional and chaotic close season as a result, producing a very dispiriting start to the season .
They definitely need to up their game somewhat.