NorthernBlue
Player Valuation: £35m
Dyche and Benitez shouldn’t be on this list. They need to be erased from our history.
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
Ian
Player Valuation: £2.5m
No other manager has won the Champions League more than 3 times - he's won 5 across 20+ years. And the only one to win it more than once with two different clubs.
Also the only manager to win all of the 5 big leagues. He's tactically flexible, players love him, he improves young players and manages the biggest egos.
Ferguson and Guardiola won more league titles than him but with only one and two clubs respectively. I overstated it before when I said it was unarguable: you could make a case for either of these two.
You could possibly make a case for Cruyff for his impact on how football is played.
It is all about opinions but which 10 managers are better than Ancelotti and on what basis?
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
10 managers
Brian Clough
Alex Ferguson
Arrigo Sacchi
Jurgen Klopp
Johan Cruyff
Pep Guardiola
Bill Shankley
Fabio Capello (90s)
Valery Lobanovskiy
Jose Mourinho (early version)
You could maybe put Ancelotti in that top ten but certainly not near the top
Brian Clough
Alex Ferguson
Arrigo Sacchi
Jurgen Klopp
Johan Cruyff
Pep Guardiola
Bill Shankley
Fabio Capello (90s)
Valery Lobanovskiy
Jose Mourinho (early version)
You could maybe put Ancelotti in that top ten but certainly not near the top
Ian
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Depends on your metrics, I suppose, but he's won more Champs Leagues and more titles with different clubs in different countries than any other manager.
I still don't see your reasoning.
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
My metrics are the impact the manager has made on his clubs and on football in general. I've shamefully forgotten Jock Stein too. To me Ancelotti has always had the best players and whilst i agree his man management is at the very highest level his coaching has been found out at various stages in his career (results went south at the end of his Chelsea spell and the Bayern players weren't overly enamoured by his coaching sessions either) Not to mention last season at Real. I actually think Ancelotti's best work was his early work at Milan even though his league positions weren't overwhelming there. Infact you could make an argument that he was a better cup manager than league manager
PPG has the below order. I’d be bringing Moyes to #1 and Martinez to #2 for their Euro qualifications. Would be firing Benitez off this list and into the sun.
Manager | Tenure | League PPG |
| Carlo Ancelotti | Dec 2019 – Jun 2021 | 1.534 |
David Moyes | Mar 2002 – Jun 2013 | 1.509 |
Ronald Koeman | Jun 2016 – Oct 2017 | 1.468 |
Roberto MartÃnez | Jun 2013 – May 2016 | 1.442 |
Sam Allardyce | Nov 2017 – May 2018 | 1.417 |
Sean Dyche | Jan 2023 – Jan 2025 | 1.147 |
Marco Silva | May 2018 – Dec 2019 | 1.283 |
Rafael BenÃtez | Jun 2021 – Jan 2022 | 1.000 |
Frank Lampard | Jan 2022 – Jan 2023 | 0.921 |
Ian
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Kaka, Pirlo, Vinicius and Rodrygo all young players who got their big breaks and became world-class under Carlo.
Ian
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I get your thinking and Martinez in 13/14 earned way more even than Ancelotti's ppg, but it collapsed the following season and that has to be taken into account: it's not really fair to judge a manager only in his good season and ignore his awful one, surely?
Ian
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Also Silva should be higher in the table than Dyche.
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
Ohh come on they were generational talents, that's like saying Pep improved Messi when in reality he just needed to be given licence to do his thing
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
Ian
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £10m
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