Excuses, why?

[COYBL25]

Hello pal I agree with the first part but I note you only joined our beloved forum this year, so how would you know he’s been a bully for years?

Could it be that @davek has finally got around to creating a multi ?

 

[Zatara]

Outside of Sunderland and the Sky top few clubs I think I have seen most managers complaining about transfer business, Fulham and Forrest were just at it on Friday.

If we are holding on for the right players at the right place I can’t moan about that. Judge the window once it closes is the only way.

But even if we had City’s funds and no worries about PSR in the future regardless of how much we spent, it would still not be poss to replace everyone in this squad in one window

Moyes said he wanted 9 or 10 players.

Last season we signed 7 players with pennies to spend.

"It would not be possible" ?

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Anyway, thats not really the issue. The issue is that where we have players out of position and no natural players for 2 or 3 positions....those areas have been ignored.

Instead weve strengthened areas that were the lowest priority.

 

[Nymzee]

Instead weve strengthened areas that were the lowest priority.

Signing another LB to add to the only one in the entire squad that is also injury prone wasn't a high priority?

Signing a second striker behind an inconsistent Beto wasn't a high priority?

Signing a proper decent #10 with strong technical ability wasn't a high priority?

Signing a back-up keeper that can actually do a job when required instead of an untested academy kid wasn't a high priority?

I could go on, the problem isn't that we've signed "low" priority players - the problem is we have lots of high priority problems all at the same time.

Remember, this was the squad come the start of the Summer:

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Moyes said he wanted 9 or 10 players.

Last season we signed 7 players with pennies to spend.

"It would not be possible" ?

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Anyway, thats not really the issue. The issue is that where we have players out of position and no natural players for 2 or 3 positions....those areas have been ignored.

Instead weve strengthened areas that were the lowest priority.

Mate out of all of those players, who had made a significant contribution by seasons end? O'Brien at RB during the run-in? Alacaraz when he was loaned in on the winter window deadline? struggling here..

 

[COYBL25]

Moyes said he wanted 9 or 10 players.

Last season we signed 7 players with pennies to spend.

"It would not be possible" ?

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Anyway, thats not really the issue. The issue is that where we have players out of position and no natural players for 2 or 3 positions....those areas have been ignored.

Instead weve strengthened areas that were the lowest priority.

By and large we signed a load of rubbish last season Zat, so I’d say your point is pretty much moot.

Plus they were signed or loaned by Dyche to suit his caveman style of footy.

The players we’ve signed so far ( apart from the fat goalie ) are light years ahead of his signings.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I see you’re calling in the big guns on this one. Wise move, Chico started will sort this thread out.

Fixed

 

[QuickandtothePointles]

I dont even know you exist.

You ought to pal. @Bally1989 clearly means business. He's the Palestine Action to your IDF.

 

[QuickandtothePointles]

Oh look, some random on the internet creating an 'agenda' that doesnt exist to have a pop.

I've backed Moyes when you were in short trousers sonny jim. Theres nothing new in Moyes, you havent taken his skillset into account in your post.

Perhaps you can find a post of mine saying Moyes is a bad coach? You wont.

You'll find plenty about his (lack of) ability in the transfer market.

Because hes dreadful at some things and great at others.

Its called having a balanced view.

Funny how this works, now youre the one with the agenda.



Why wouldnt KDH be 'attracted to Everton' ?

He's never delivered above 'good' in the premier league, hes unwanted at his club and hes lucky a club as big as ours has come in for him.

A player i wanted 2 years ago to balance the midfield with Garner. That was when we were fighting relegation, no one was interested in him -- last year he got his move due to his old boss. No competition, this year who else bid for him?

Grealish is another unwanted player who can live at home in Cheshire and play for Everton on the same City funded salary. No one was buying him and hes elected for the option of playing down the road.

Barry -- He's not a stranger to a move and with a bigger stage and salary he wasnt likely staying at the yellow submarine was he?

Ive not seen any major coup's this summer. All the players signed were unwanted at their former clubs, aside from Barry.

Where there have been challenges, no players have been signed.



Wow i'd never thought that a budget meant there was a certain amount to spend. Gosh, who knew that signing players would impact others within a budget.

Great insight and well done to you putting down Evertonians.

Take a step back and look at £4mil wasted on Travers who was unwanted at Bournemouth or £28mil on KDH who Chelsea were desperate to shift.

Then look at this mess in 10 months time and keep up your stance when £150mil has been dropped and theres real issues with signing players, not only Moyes incompetence.



Its all relative to spending £93mil

Though:

Keeper = Pickford, the rest are crap.
No improvement.

Defence = A CB at RB making Michael Keane 3rd choice. Aznou is promising.
No improvement.

Midfield = KDH signed who plays best in Gana's left sided midfield position.
Wait and see.

Wide = No right winger
No improvement

Attack = Grealish and Alcaraz in at 10 and Barry signed to compete with Beto
Major improvement.

Weve improved 9 and 10.



Glad you had a nice night out. Hope you got home safely, careful with drinking too much mate.

 

[Nymzee]

You’re a massive forum bully and have been for years.

How'd you know that? You joined in January?

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Hello pal I agree with the first part but I note you only joined our beloved forum this year, so how would you know he’s been a bully for years?

How'd you know that? You joined in January?

'Long time lurker' etc etc

 

[GrandOldTeam]

By and large we signed a load of rubbish last season Zat, so I’d say your point is pretty much moot.

Plus they were signed or loaned by Dyche to suit his caveman style of footy.

The players we’ve signed so far ( apart from the fat goalie ) are light years ahead of his signings.

The key point - we didn't invest in the team last summer, or the summer before that, or the summer before that - we made a big profit.

Last summer - the only players we spent money on was Ndiaye and OBrien. I'm not counting Tim Iroegbunam as he was clearly an PSR swindle.

At least this summer we've spent/NET. Imagine we had to sell more than we spent again, and/or only spend on players for £0 upfront...

 

[Nymzee]

The key point - we didn't invest in the team last summer, or the summer before that, or the summer before that - we made a big profit.

Last summer - the only players we spent money on was Ndiaye and OBrien. I'm not counting Tim Iroegbunam as he was clearly an PSR swindle.

At least this summer we've spent/NET. Imagine we had to sell more than we spent again, and/or only spend on players for £0 upfront...

Only team still in the green over 5 years, even with this Summer's outlay:

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Only team still in the green over 5 years, even with this Summer's outlay:

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Aye, through necessity as well.

Mad just how much we've been hamstrung in the transfer market in recent years for one reason or another. Wasn't all going to just suddenly change this summer, sadly.

 

[Zatara]

Signing another LB to add to the only one in the entire squad that is also injury prone wasn't a high priority?

Signing a second striker behind an inconsistent Beto wasn't a high priority?

Signing a proper decent #10 with strong technical ability wasn't a high priority?

Signing a back-up keeper that can actually do a job when required instead of an untested academy kid wasn't a high priority?

I could go on, the problem isn't that we've signed "low" priority players - the problem is we have lots of high priority problems all at the same time.

Remember, this was the squad come the start of the Summer:

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Admittedly, transfer windows arent about signing players in order of need.

However, you can see on your chart there that you have 2 players clearly out of position.

I suspect they are on a new updated chart, still out of position.

We therefore have 3 centre backs. Keane is backup to the 2 starters.

We have our real backup on the right. A zero pace mcneil ahead of him

We all know this Nymz...its weird youre riding in to disagree.

Mate out of all of those players, who had made a significant contribution by seasons end? O'Brien at RB during the run-in? Alacaraz when he was loaned in on the winter window deadline? struggling here..

Wheres the relevance?

The point was, and i paraphrase:

"If everton had unlimited money like city and no PSR constraints, replacing the outgoings would be impossible"

Ergo we signed 7 with little money, many were crap and several were and are good.

With unlimited money could we replace the dross outgoings this window?

Of course we could.

By and large we signed a load of rubbish last season Zat, so I’d say your point is pretty much moot.

Plus they were signed or loaned by Dyche to suit his caveman style of footy.

The players we’ve signed so far ( apart from the fat goalie ) are light years ahead of his signings.

You not a fan of O'Brien, Ndiaye or Alcaraz buddy?

How about the £8mil Fellows or the £20mil Wesley deals we could have done in Jan?

All the ones Thelwell had for Everton but wasnt given the cash.

He was excellent.

 

[MondayHater]

Moyes said he wanted 9 or 10 players.

Last season we signed 7 players with pennies to spend.

"It would not be possible" ?

Sorry, but you are wrong.

Anyway, thats not really the issue. The issue is that where we have players out of position and no natural players for 2 or 3 positions....those areas have been ignored.

Instead weve strengthened areas that were the lowest priority.

They haven’t been ignored though have they?

We have made three bids for Dibling and been very interested in the lad from Leicester.

RW and RB is a priority but if a signing say a GK or LB pop up as a good price then it makes sense to grab them while we can. It doesn’t mean we have forgotten about main places we need to fill but sometimes that’s just how things happen.

Man City spent loads of money and they didn’t get in to the CL for a few seasons even with all the cash thrown about, so it doesn’t mean you can get everything done all at once. We may, for example, what Dibling as first choice, but if we can’t get him for the price we want we may get someone else for a few seasons instead to fill that role until the right player becomes available for that area.

It’s not football manager transfers take time.