Excuses, why?

[Zatara]

Oh look, Zat shoehorning a criticism of Moyes in to yet another post. Ever tried backing a manager who's not your perfect manager? You've backed enough players who've amounted to nothing over the years.

Oh look, some random on the internet creating an 'agenda' that doesnt exist to have a pop.

I've backed Moyes when you were in short trousers sonny jim. Theres nothing new in Moyes, you havent taken his skillset into account in your post.

Perhaps you can find a post of mine saying Moyes is a bad coach? You wont.

You'll find plenty about his (lack of) ability in the transfer market.

Because hes dreadful at some things and great at others.

Its called having a balanced view.

Funny how this works, now youre the one with the agenda.

I’d argue it’s the best transfer window we’ve had in years when you look at what we’ve done the past decade. The issue now is not money or ambition, but how poorly we’ve been performing for years in complete decline and reputation. We’ve got to change that and we are.

If we had the winning ways of a top 10 side, I think the point is stronger about being a poor transfer window. Given where we are, I’d say well done on who we brought in and who we dumped out that was overdue. You don’t attract the likes of KDH, Barry, and Grealish if they aren’t seeing that upswing from last season. Players know and they take note.

Why wouldnt KDH be 'attracted to Everton' ?

He's never delivered above 'good' in the premier league, hes unwanted at his club and hes lucky a club as big as ours has come in for him.

A player i wanted 2 years ago to balance the midfield with Garner. That was when we were fighting relegation, no one was interested in him -- last year he got his move due to his old boss. No competition, this year who else bid for him?

Grealish is another unwanted player who can live at home in Cheshire and play for Everton on the same City funded salary. No one was buying him and hes elected for the option of playing down the road.

Barry -- He's not a stranger to a move and with a bigger stage and salary he wasnt likely staying at the yellow submarine was he?

Ive not seen any major coup's this summer. All the players signed were unwanted at their former clubs, aside from Barry.

Where there have been challenges, no players have been signed.

A lot of the uncertainty is dictated by budget, and exacerbated by PSR.

It's alright saying "just throw 50 million at that player", but what happens if that only leaves you with £15 million to get the next two in and then the parent clubs of those two won't accept less than £8 million a piece? Well, then you've got to try and get the £50 million player down to £49 million... Or go with a different strategy and sign different players.

I'm simplifying things there, because I know you'll get my point, but most fans don't even stop and consider these small margins that can make a big difference.

Wow i'd never thought that a budget meant there was a certain amount to spend. Gosh, who knew that signing players would impact others within a budget.

Great insight and well done to you putting down Evertonians.

Take a step back and look at £4mil wasted on Travers who was unwanted at Bournemouth or £28mil on KDH who Chelsea were desperate to shift.

Then look at this mess in 10 months time and keep up your stance when £150mil has been dropped and theres real issues with signing players, not only Moyes incompetence.

Literally every department??

I think we are well set Goalkeeper wise.


I think our centre Half's are pretty good.

I think our midfielders are more than serviceable.

Left wing is pretty much spot on.

We are certainly in better shape than we have been since 2020

Its all relative to spending £93mil

Though:

Keeper = Pickford, the rest are crap.
No improvement.

Defence = A CB at RB making Michael Keane 3rd choice. Aznou is promising.
No improvement.

Midfield = KDH signed who plays best in Gana's left sided midfield position.
Wait and see.

Wide = No right winger
No improvement

Attack = Grealish and Alcaraz in at 10 and Barry signed to compete with Beto
Major improvement.

Weve improved 9 and 10.

I think it’s been a great transfer window tbh.

Glad you had a nice night out. Hope you got home safely, careful with drinking too much mate.

 

[Goat]

You’re a massive forum bully and have been for years.

I dont even know you exist.

 

[Igrok]

Regular relegation threads tell u more…

 

[Bluebonic]

A lot of the uncertainty is dictated by budget, and exacerbated by PSR.

It's alright saying "just throw 50 million at that player", but what happens if that only leaves you with £15 million to get the next two in and then the parent clubs of those two won't accept less than £8 million a piece? Well, then you've got to try and get the £50 million player down to £49 million... Or go with a different strategy and sign different players.

I'm simplifying things there, because I know you'll get my point, but most fans don't even stop and consider these small margins that can make a big difference.

People also underestimate the influence agents have on a deal. They arent interested that a player will be turning out at a boss new stadium, or that they will be playing in front of great fans. That doesn't affect their bottom line. They want the best deal up front, so will advise rejection or delay according to which deal offers them (the agent) the best return.

 

[WA Toffee]

Why is admitting Everton are poor in literally every department an issue for some.

Is it because they enjoy the dopamine rush of a like on the internet by someone called GOAT gives them?

Is it because admitting Everton are poor would mean they might have to do something other than happy clap?

If they do that are they worried they will get called Kopites?

Is being bad a badge of honour that they can boast about?

I really need to understand the psychological reasoning behind the constant excuse making in our fanbase.

Because we care about each other and like to remind our more negative members of the forum that instead of focussing on doom and gloom all the time, they should perhaps try to find something joyful in their lives to avoid their descent into depression over something that they have absolutely no control over?

 

[Moomin]

You’re a massive forum bully and have been for years.

@chicoazul

He called him massive.

 

[COYB75]

@chicoazul

He called him massive.

I see you’re calling in the big guns on this one. Wise move, Chico will sort this thread out.

 

[Sadken]

I love our club and always will no matter where they place or if they’re relegated. That being said, I want more and we deserve more.

An entire generation or more knows nothing of high-level, exciting Everton football. It took that long to dig ourselves into this hole. That’s due to mismanagement and questionable ownership decisions. It won’t come close to taking that long to righting the ship. It just won’t happen overnight.

And the way to ensure that is by not repeating mistakes of the past. Throwing money at long-term deals doesn’t work. Being deliberate works. We’re being deliberate but things are slow. We don’t have the deep pockets yet or our prior clout. Decisions will take longer for the time being.

We’ll improve this year over last. And in 5 seasons we’ll be a much better thriving form of our prior selves.

In just the few months since December, massive groundwork has been laid to ensure this. We are literally night and day from where we were the very day TFG took over,

- Sacked Dyche
- Demanded more
- Brought in Moyes
- Great finish to the season
- Stadium is complete
- Sponsorship with Hill-Dickinson
- Revenue from better food services
- Retained Goodison
- Unearthed success stories in Beto and Jake O’Brien
- Made a good decision with limited funds to bring in Charly
- Resolved PSR
- Brought in Barry, KDH, and Grealish
- Talk of developing and buying Nelson Dock

How can you not see all of that? The internet feeds and breeds discontent. I couldn’t accomplish all that in two lifetimes. TFG and Moyes are setting us up for a very bright future on what has only been 9 months.

COYB UTFT

Excellent .

 

[Toffe3m4n]

Oh look, some random on the internet creating an 'agenda' that doesnt exist to have a pop.

I've backed Moyes when you were in short trousers sonny jim. Theres nothing new in Moyes, you havent taken his skillset into account in your post.

Perhaps you can find a post of mine saying Moyes is a bad coach? You wont.

You'll find plenty about his (lack of) ability in the transfer market.

Because hes dreadful at some things and great at others.

Its called having a balanced view.

Funny how this works, now youre the one with the agenda.



Why wouldnt KDH be 'attracted to Everton' ?

He's never delivered above 'good' in the premier league, hes unwanted at his club and hes lucky a club as big as ours has come in for him.

A player i wanted 2 years ago to balance the midfield with Garner. That was when we were fighting relegation, no one was interested in him -- last year he got his move due to his old boss. No competition, this year who else bid for him?

Grealish is another unwanted player who can live at home in Cheshire and play for Everton on the same City funded salary. No one was buying him and hes elected for the option of playing down the road.

Barry -- He's not a stranger to a move and with a bigger stage and salary he wasnt likely staying at the yellow submarine was he?

Ive not seen any major coup's this summer. All the players signed were unwanted at their former clubs, aside from Barry.

Where there have been challenges, no players have been signed.



Wow i'd never thought that a budget meant there was a certain amount to spend. Gosh, who knew that signing players would impact others within a budget.

Great insight and well done to you putting down Evertonians.

Take a step back and look at £4mil wasted on Travers who was unwanted at Bournemouth or £28mil on KDH who Chelsea were desperate to shift.

Then look at this mess in 10 months time and keep up your stance when £150mil has been dropped and theres real issues with signing players, not only Moyes incompetence.



Its all relative to spending £93mil

Though:

Keeper = Pickford, the rest are crap.
No improvement.

Defence = A CB at RB making Michael Keane 3rd choice. Aznou is promising.
No improvement.

Midfield = KDH signed who plays best in Gana's left sided midfield position.
Wait and see.

Wide = No right winger
No improvement

Attack = Grealish and Alcaraz in at 10 and Barry signed to compete with Beto
Major improvement.

Weve improved 9 and 10.



Glad you had a nice night out. Hope you got home safely, careful with drinking too much mate.

Zat this has to be the longest most passive-agressive post that I've ever read on here. Bravo

 

[Groucho]

I love our club and always will no matter where they place or if they’re relegated. That being said, I want more and we deserve more.

An entire generation or more knows nothing of high-level, exciting Everton football. It took that long to dig ourselves into this hole. That’s due to mismanagement and questionable ownership decisions. It won’t come close to taking that long to righting the ship. It just won’t happen overnight.

And the way to ensure that is by not repeating mistakes of the past. Throwing money at long-term deals doesn’t work. Being deliberate works. We’re being deliberate but things are slow. We don’t have the deep pockets yet or our prior clout. Decisions will take longer for the time being.

We’ll improve this year over last. And in 5 seasons we’ll be a much better thriving form of our prior selves.

In just the few months since December, massive groundwork has been laid to ensure this. We are literally night and day from where we were the very day TFG took over,

- Sacked Dyche
- Demanded more
- Brought in Moyes
- Great finish to the season
- Stadium is complete
- Sponsorship with Hill-Dickinson
- Revenue from better food services
- Retained Goodison
- Unearthed success stories in Beto and Jake O’Brien
- Made a good decision with limited funds to bring in Charly
- Resolved PSR
- Brought in Barry, KDH, and Grealish
- Talk of developing and buying Nelson Dock

How can you not see all of that? The internet feeds and breeds discontent. I couldn’t accomplish all that in two lifetimes. TFG and Moyes are setting us up for a very bright future on what has only been 9 months.

COYB UTFT

Personally think this thread would’ve made more sense when we were on the downward trajectory with little hope.

Perhaps it’s a bit late to the party now we’re hopefully on the up.

 

[roy vernon]

Keep on logging on here looking for news of right wingers, instead I find views of right whingers. Seriously though, the window, like the curate's egg, has been good in parts. We desperately need to get a wide right player in and a competent right back. If we do that, the window will have been good, if not, it will have been an epic fail.

 

[MondayHater]

Outside of Sunderland and the Sky top few clubs I think I have seen most managers complaining about transfer business, Fulham and Forrest were just at it on Friday.

If we are holding on for the right players at the right place I can’t moan about that. Judge the window once it closes is the only way.

But even if we had City’s funds and no worries about PSR in the future regardless of how much we spent, it would still not be poss to replace everyone in this squad in one window

 

[COYBL25]

I dont even know you exist.

I’d like to know what you’ve done to upset him so much

 

[COYBL25]

Outside of Sunderland and the Sky top few clubs I think I have seen most managers complaining about transfer business, Fulham and Forrest were just at it on Friday.

If we are holding on for the right players at the right place I can’t moan about that. Judge the window once it closes is the only way.

But even if we had City’s funds and no worries about PSR in the future regardless of how much we spent, it would still not be poss to replace everyone in this squad in one window

Is the correct answer.

 

[chicoazul]

You’re a massive forum bully and have been for years.

Hello pal I agree with the first part but I note you only joined our beloved forum this year, so how would you know he’s been a bully for years?